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all wrapped up again, I thought for sure he was coming out today in no front wraps but I guess not. Not sure what I am doing not, I love the odds on him, but I might down it down to spreading $200 in exacta wagers......

glad I only wasted $200 in exactas, HOW Cornhelio didn't have a jockey objection regarding Silver Wagon is ludicious. Martini should have easily been put up for 3rd

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm thinking SNS's last race took too much out of him. He was wide, but only a path wider than the eventual winner around the first turn.

Broke a step slow also and Ramon had to use him a little bit. I'm sure being 6 wide around the 1st turn didn't help either. McCann's Mojave though. Any time I even give him a chance he runs terribly but when I throw him out well you know the rest.

SNS is probably just missing those tough 3 horse fields...

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'm thinking SNS's last race took too much out of him. He was wide, but only a path wider than the eventual winner around the first turn.

I don't think the last race is what it was. I said this prior to his last race:

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

I like Strong Contender with Chatain and Istan in the exacta and tri boxes. Forgot my boy Indy Wind.

Looking at Sweetnorthernsaint, I don't consider the two comeback races and the races before the Gotham. He was obviously the class of those races and could run how he wanted and still win. For a decent look at how he might fit with these, I looked at his four races against graded competition:

Gotham-Was 2 back of a half in 47 3/5 and was 1.5 back of 6f in 1:12 1/5. He was fairly close to the pace but never had the lead. Steadily made ground late but didn't win.

Illinois Derby-Was 1 back of a half in 48 and 1/2 back of 6f in 1:13 before exploding to win the race. Had a lot in the tank (why not after such slow fractions?)

Kentucky Derby-Was 3.5 back after a half in 46 and about the same back of 6f in 1:10 4/5. He ended up tiring badly and losing a lot of ground late.

Preakness-Was 1 back of a half in 46 3/5 and 1/2 back of 6f in 1:10 1/5. He ended up finishing second that day but he was five lengths further back at the finish than he was after 6f meaning he again lost a lot of ground.

My feeling is that when he's allowed to run on very easy paces, he does well. Let him run a 48 or so for the half and still be within a couple of lengths and he's dangerous. But if they go faster, he's in trouble. He's either got to run faster to keep his position, which takes away from his late punch, or he's got to drop back further and try to run down a lot of horses. I don't see him with a chance here today. The half is likely to be in the 45 3/5 to 46 range and there are a few horses that will be contesting it.

He simply cannot stay close to a decent pace and finish with a kick. In the last race, he was up close to a hot pace and finished ok but not with a kick. In that race, he just didn't lose a lot of ground but he wasn't coming at the end. Today, he just had nothing when the running started.

for whatever reason..the outside at 1and 1/8 is all bad..10-13..

Did Silver Wagon come out on Dry Martini a bit, or did Dry Martini just run into the back of Silver Wagon?

SNS=Harlan's Holiday: Overrated Bitches lol

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I think it was a little bit of both. SW definitely came out when they hit the top of the stretch, but DM was coming in through the stretch under right hand whipping.

Appeared to slow his momentum either way. I don't think he would have got to McCann, but still could have finished 2nd or 3rd..imo.

the 1 had all the chances just ran a bit akward late had momentum..then had to steady/swerve.....

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Originally Posted by pmayjr

SNS=Harlan's Holiday

That's an insult to Harlan's Holiday...

I'll watch with some interest next time SNS goes out, but I'm beginning to think he'll never meet the expectations some had for him last year.