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eurobounce 01-17-2007 08:40 PM

Who would you want as President
 
Right now who would you want as President from the following

1 - Geroge W Bush
2 - Jimmy Carter
3 - Harry Truman
4 - Woodrow Wilson

Seattleallstar 01-17-2007 09:10 PM

Jimmy Carter!

somerfrost 01-17-2007 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
Jimmy Carter!


Absolutely no question, the last great President...Harry Truman!

brianwspencer 01-17-2007 11:26 PM

I would say, without thinking about it a whole lot -- Truman.

KirisClown 01-18-2007 12:39 AM

Id have trouble picking 1 or 2 to be a White House janitor...


Harry Truman for president without doubt...

Byebyemermaid 01-18-2007 06:23 AM

Harry Truman in a romp.

randallscott35 01-18-2007 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Right now who would you want as President from the following

1 - Geroge W Bush
2 - Jimmy Carter
3 - Harry Truman
4 - Woodrow Wilson

Why would you put the other 3 with Truman to begin with? Like putting Tim Teufel in the Hall of Fame. No sense.

randallscott35 01-18-2007 07:25 AM

Top 5 Presidents

1. Lincoln
2. Washington
3. FDR
4. Jefferson
5. T- Roos

eurobounce 01-18-2007 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Why would you put the other 3 with Truman to begin with? Like putting Tim Teufel in the Hall of Fame. No sense.

Cause Truman decided to drop "the bomb." Be real curious to know what he would do with the war in Iraq.

eurobounce 01-18-2007 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Top 5 Presidents

1. Lincoln
2. Washington
3. FDR
4. Jefferson
5. T- Roos

I do not like FDR. He gets way more credit than he deserves. He knew about Pearl Harbor. He knew that was the only way he could get the American people on board to join WWII. Also, we are still paying for his "big gov't" philosophy. In addition, the man married his cousin.

Danzig 01-18-2007 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
I do not like FDR. He gets way more credit than he deserves. He knew about Pearl Harbor. He knew that was the only way he could get the American people on board to join WWII. Also, we are still paying for his "big gov't" philosophy. In addition, the man married his cousin.

that's ridiculous. the only war really going on at that point was in europe. japan blindsided us, and then germany declared war to support japan against us. i'd imagine hitler bargained japan would keep us busy in the pacific, but FDR agreed with churchill to focus much of our forces on europe, as hitler was considered the bigger threat...


and of the four, i suppose truman. second choice would be wilson.

and randall, flip flop washington and lincoln. people forget how fragile our brand new 'united' states was in those early days.

eurobounce 01-18-2007 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
that's ridiculous. the only war really going on at that point was in europe. japan blindsided us, and then germany declared war to support japan against us. i'd imagine hitler bargained japan would keep us busy in the pacific, but FDR agreed with churchill to focus much of our forces on europe, as hitler was considered the bigger threat...


and of the four, i suppose truman. second choice would be wilson.

and randall, flip flop washington and lincoln. people forget how fragile our brand new 'united' states was in those early days.

No it is not ridiculous. You mean to tell me that Japan can move their navy within miles from Hawaii without FDR knowing? Come on.....it is widely accepted by WWII historians that FDR knew about the attack on Peral Harbor. What he didn't know was when. FDR was struggling to pull the US out of the depression. He also wanted the US to play more of a global role than being an isolationist country (which is what we were up until WWII). You have to remember that the US was neutral up until WWII.

eurobounce 01-18-2007 08:34 AM

What is neat about Washington is that he was tall. I believe he was like 6'1. Back then that was very tall. Washington was the brightest of man, but he physical stature was very respected and that is one of the reasons why they selected him as President. But I agree, he should be #1.

randallscott35 01-18-2007 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Cause Truman decided to drop "the bomb." Be real curious to know what he would do with the war in Iraq.

Actually the way I wrote it came out wrong. I would take Truman over the others you have listed....The other 3 were not what I would consider great presidents.

randallscott35 01-18-2007 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
I do not like FDR. He gets way more credit than he deserves. He knew about Pearl Harbor. He knew that was the only way he could get the American people on board to join WWII. Also, we are still paying for his "big gov't" philosophy. In addition, the man married his cousin.

To each his own, I don't know where you get the Pearl Harbor info b/c its wrong.

eurobounce 01-18-2007 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
To each his own, I don't know where you get the Pearl Harbor info b/c its wrong.

You can get that information in any WWII history book. Or get it in any conspiracy book, or in any FDR biography.

And if you want a source, read Churchill's "The Grand Alliance." This series on WWII actually won a Nobel Peace Prize.

Sightseek 01-18-2007 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
You can get that information in any WWII history book. Or get it in any conspiracy book, or in any FDR biography.

LOL!!!! A conspiracy book? Great way to back yourself up.

eurobounce 01-18-2007 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
LOL!!!! A conspiracy book? Great way to back yourself up.

Consirpacy books are some of the best books about what really happened. But it is up to the reader to decide what is real and what isn't. It is hard to ignore when FDR's "friend" admits that FDR knew about Pearl Harbor .

Sightseek 01-18-2007 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Consirpacy books are some of the best books about what really happened. But it is up to the reader to decide what is real and what isn't. It is hard to ignore when FDR's "friend" admits that FDR knew about Pearl Harbor .

Please scroll to "Disillusionment" :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory

and "rumors":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack_on_Pearl_Harbor

eurobounce 01-18-2007 09:06 AM

Sightseek, I understand all this and FDR was not responsible for Pearl Harbor. I am saying HE KNEW about it. In addition, Dewey was going to actually talk about how FDR knew about the attack when he was running for President. But, the Military persuaded Dewey not to talk about the "code breaking" abilities of the US Military.

Here is an excerpt from a great book called "Day of Deceit."

According to Stinnett, the answers to the mysteries of Pearl Harbor can be found in the extraordinary number of documents he was able to attain through Freedom of Information Act requests. Cable after cable of decryptions, scores of military messages that America was intercepting, clearly showed that Japanese ships were preparing for war and heading straight for Hawaii.


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