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Downthestretch55 01-04-2007 09:47 AM

Signing Statement
 
I post this only for the purpose to inform.
My only comment is that this causes some concern.
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/sto...p-408789c.html

brianwspencer 01-04-2007 09:57 AM

Signing statements and this administration have been a major concern for quite some time now.

A president using signing statements is not unheard of in the past, but they were used for a variety of reasons. No president has ever come close to using the number of signing statements that President G.W. Bush has.

Every single one of them essentially puts the law into our nation's codified set, yet preserves the president's right to not follow them.

I've wondered often if there is any legal remedy for this, as whenever the president issues a signing statement he is issuing a statement that he is not bound by, and is above the law at any time of "emergency."

Guess whose sole discretion it is as to what kinds of times qualify as an "emergency?"


You got it.

somerfrost 01-04-2007 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Signing statements and this administration have been a major concern for quite some time now.

A president using signing statements is not unheard of in the past, but they were used for a variety of reasons. No president has ever come close to using the number of signing statements that President G.W. Bush has.

Every single one of them essentially puts the law into our nation's codified set, yet preserves the president's right to not follow them.

I've wondered often if there is any legal remedy for this, as whenever the president issues a signing statement he is issuing a statement that he is not bound by, and is above the law at any time of "emergency."

Guess whose sole discretion it is as to what kinds of times qualify as an "emergency?"


You got it.


While I usually pass on the Bush-bashing that constantly goes on here, this type of thing is of grave concern! It's been a slow but gradual erosion of many of our privacy rights over the years since 9-11, the fear-mongering has allowed the Feds to seize more and more power and in this day of high technology, there is little that lies outside their ability when it comes to spying on citizens...we survived McCarthy and the abuses of J Edgar Hoover but many folks suffered and this is a real concern. When you have folks willing to report someone to the FBI for verbalizing disagreement with Bush or promoting an alternative life style, it doesn't take much to start the proverbial ball rolling down the hill!

Downthestretch55 01-04-2007 11:53 AM

Again, I'll state that I didn't post this as a "Bush bash", but rather to inform.
Yes, it causes concern.
Thank you Brian and Somerfrost for voicing yours.
Believe it or not, I'm really looking for nice things to say. I'll post them when I find them. Really!
DTS

brianwspencer 01-04-2007 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Again, I'll state that I didn't post this as a "Bush bash", but rather to inform.
Yes, it causes concern.
Thank you Brian and Somerfrost for voicing yours.
Believe it or not, I'm really looking for nice things to say. I'll post them when I find them. Really!
DTS

I find most Bush bashing to be boring these days -- but I've been following the topic of signging statements for some time with this administration.

It is one of the more egregiously offensive things they do.

brianwspencer 01-04-2007 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
This is pretty much how I feel as well. As much as I disagree with a lot of things he and his boys do, it does get to be overkill. But this stuff is pretty scary. Somer hit the nail right on the head with the erosion of our privacies since 9-11. At first I understood it, but at this point it seems unnecessary.

Bush bashing is like riding a bike. Once you learn how to do it, you never forget -- just in case a situation arises in which you need to.

But at the same time, if you do it too much it will start to chafe you between the legs.

lg1965 01-04-2007 08:33 PM

that signing statement is totally out of line. it's beyond big brother. it's beyond obnoxious.


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