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Rupert Pupkin 12-17-2006 04:40 PM

Which Wars Did You Support?
 
Which wars that the US participated in, did you all support? Should we have invaded Iraq? Should we have invaded Afghanistan? Should we have been involved in Kosovo? Did you support the first Persian Gulf War? Should we have sent troops to Vietnam? Should we have sent troops to Europe in World War II?

Please give your reasoning also. This should be an interesting discussion.

Downthestretch55 12-17-2006 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
Which wars that the US participated in, did you all support? Should we have invaded Iraq? Should we have invaded Afghanistan? Should we have been involved in Kosovo? Did you support the first Persian Gulf War? Should we have sent troops to Vietnam? Should we have sent troops to Europe in World War II?

Please give your reasoning also. This should be an interesting discussion.

Rupert,
Although very many of my ancestors fought valliantly in many, going back to the "revolutionary" one, and the "civil" one (as if there's ever a civil kind of war), I'll just have to say that my answers to all of yours are NO.
I am a pacifist. I believe in the "Prince of Peace".
I "turn the other cheek", talk, and attempt to resolve differences in a peaceful and agreeable way BEFORE, not after.
Seems to me, unless humans begin to start thinking in alternative ways, and given the technologies of destruction of our own creation, those that we've devoted our most "educated minds" to invent, the only hope for humans is to not look back on which were "good ones" and which ones weren't, but to see a better approach to resolve differences.
If not, no amount of "evaluation" will decide those that are justified.
Many more will die in the process.
If you and others wish to "stay the course", we all are indeed doomed.
http://www.antiwar.com/

Rupert Pupkin 12-17-2006 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Rupert,
Although very many of my ancestors fought valliantly in many, going back to the "revolutionary" one, and the "civil" one (as if there's ever a civil kind of war), I'll just have to say that my answers to all of yours are NO.
I am a pacifist. I believe in the "Prince of Peace".
I "turn the other cheek", talk, and attempt to resolve differences in a peaceful and agreeable way BEFORE, not after.
Seems to me, unless humans begin to start thinking in alternative ways, and given the technologies of destruction of our own creation, those that we've devoted our most "educated minds" to invent, the only hope for humans is to not look back on which were "good ones" and which ones weren't, but to see a better approach to resolve differences.
If not, no amount of "evaluation" will decide those that are justified.
Many more will die in the process.
If you and others wish to "stay the course", we all are indeed doomed.
http://www.antiwar.com/

I respect what you are saying but it does seem that there are times when there is no choice. Let's take World War II for example. Hitler was gobbling up Europe. If we didn't get involved, Germany would have taken over the world.

Danzig 12-17-2006 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
I respect what you are saying but it does seem that there are times when there is no choice. Let's take World War II for example. Hitler was gobbling up Europe. If we didn't get involved, Germany would have taken over the world.

should just turn the other cheek, i guess that would be the one with blinders on. then it'll all be all better.

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-17-2006 06:06 PM

...all of them and im on one side ...ours..
vietnam was before my time..but i remember many hippys getting beat down on the news..68 chi town ..ive served with a few guys that were in nam....it seemed that it was it micro managed war with no real intent to win..for that im not supportive..but i do support the troups that went..
granada..needed to be done yes
kosevo ..yes
bombing of kadafi yes
desert wars 1 and 2 yes

paisjpq 12-17-2006 06:17 PM

all of them...and none of them.

It's kind of the way I feel about this board...I would be content to sit back and let people fight it out amongst themselves...but inevitably it disrupts the whole board so someone has to step in on occasion and straighten things out...

it's a simplistic view I know...but that's why I'm not running this country...

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-17-2006 06:36 PM

It's kind of the way I feel about this board...I would be content to sit back and let people fight it out amongst themselves...but inevitably it disrupts the whole board so someone has to step in on occasion and straighten things out...

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...you just cant wait to drop the hammer...admit it damit>>>lol

timmgirvan 12-17-2006 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
all of them...and none of them.

It's kind of the way I feel about this board...I would be content to sit back and let people fight it out amongst themselves...but inevitably it disrupts the whole board so someone has to step in on occasion and straighten things out...

it's a simplistic view I know...but that's why I'm not running this country...

Paisjpq: So well put! But this old dog is tired.....

Coach Pants 12-17-2006 07:02 PM

I support the war on drugs. We're winning!!

Rupert Pupkin 12-17-2006 07:51 PM

The interesting thing is that practically any war will be popular as long as we win. If you look at the polls on the Iraq war, the vast majority of Americans were happy that we invaded Iraq even a couple of years into the war. Even after they knew that we didn't find any WMDs, the vast majority of Americans still thought it was good that we went into Iraq. The only reason the war has become unpopular is because the war is not going well.

I would pretty much say the same for Vietnam. If we would have gone in there and won the war, most Americans would say that it was a great idea.

I guess most Americans are very results oriented.

repent 12-17-2006 10:52 PM

I support any and all wars.
thats how civilization advances.


Repent

Seattleallstar 12-17-2006 11:10 PM

I support all of the wars we been in since i've been born 1981. Especially in Kosovo with our hero Bill Clinton showing the way.

repent 12-17-2006 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
I support all of the wars we been in since i've been born 1981. Especially in Kosovo with our hero Bill Clinton showing the way.


what up Jerry.
you have not been around lately all that much.
Bill Clinton was not our hero.
may be your hero, but the country forgot about him in about 2 seconds.


Repent

Kasept 12-17-2006 11:42 PM

Under-supported War's

1. War of 1812 (I love that war..)
2. The Chocolate War (Robby Gordon's first film.. Great.)
3. Ward Cleaver ("June.. What are we going to do about the Beaver?")
4. Estella Warren ('nuff said)
5. Ward 8 (Old-fashioned ****tail no one appreciates anymore)

timmgirvan 12-17-2006 11:51 PM

Estella Warren was in a war?

Danzig 12-18-2006 04:59 AM

hell, tim, i'm sure more on here want to hear about the Beaver war!

timmgirvan 12-18-2006 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
hell, tim, i'm sure more on here want to hear about the Beaver war!

Sorry....er,musta missed that one!:eek:

GenuineRisk 12-18-2006 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin
I guess most Americans are very results oriented.

That is the truest (most true?) thing you've ever said. And yes, regardless of right or wrong in intent, I agree that the winning side tends to think the war they won was a good idea and the losing side that it wasn't.

I'm currently fighting the Battle of the Bulge.

GPK 12-18-2006 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
That is the truest (most true?) thing you've ever said. And yes, regardless of right or wrong in intent, I agree that the winning side tends to think the war they won was a good idea and the losing side that it wasn't.

I'm currently fighting the Battle of the Bulge.


meaning she is up to about 105lbs:rolleyes:

GenuineRisk 12-18-2006 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by T3B
meaning she is up to about 105lbs:rolleyes:

Not after this weekend... I made Christmas cookies. Eight thousand Christmas cookies. Of which I've eaten four thousand.


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