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sumitas 11-27-2006 05:07 PM

Empire Racing Offers Great Improvements
 
Horse and rider safety will be greatly improved by this far reaching proposal...
http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=36548

sumitas 11-28-2006 12:24 AM

I'd say this group has stepped up to place itself right in the thick of things for the NYRA franchise.

sumitas 11-30-2006 05:01 PM

They are rolling out their complete plan now. Extremely impressive.
http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=36591

blackthroatedwind 11-30-2006 05:09 PM

As a friend of mine would say....



People really flocking to this thread.

oracle80 11-30-2006 05:17 PM

Please don't get me started ok?
Its been obvious that Sumitas is a complete and total shill for Empire since the first posts went up months ago.
Newsflash to Sumitas.
If Nyra doesn't get it, Excelsior does.
Bomze/Perlee vs. Steinbrenner's son in law/Fields is a mismatch of epic proportions. Its the kinda thing Vegas wouldn't even offer a line on, off the board.

sumitas 11-30-2006 05:27 PM

The plans as they now stand clearly place Empire at the forefront in the NYRA bid. it's not even close after the 2 recent blockbuster proposals by Empire.

Excelsior is clearly shaken and grasping for words.

blackthroatedwind 11-30-2006 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sumitas
The plans as they now stand clearly place Empire at the forefront in the NYRA bid. it's not even close after the 2 recent blockbuster proposals by Empire.

Excelsior is clearly shaken and grasping for words.

I would like to suggest a quiet vacation for you....cause you're nuts.

oracle80 11-30-2006 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I would like to suggest a quiet vacation for you....cause you're nuts.

Oh come on now!
You just figured that out?

sumitas 11-30-2006 05:38 PM

and you wonder why squirrels look for you...ur nuts.

oracle80 11-30-2006 05:46 PM

Actually this poster absolutely embodies the characteristics of most of the folks I've met who are Empire supporters.

eurobounce 11-30-2006 06:25 PM

I dont care who gets it. I just hope they dont do anything with the state bred program. I thinking about partnering with a group to buy a NY bred.

sumitas 11-30-2006 11:59 PM

cool, you should be able to find a nicely bred horse at a reasonable price that can compete.

the best proposal far and away right now is empire. and there's more to come next week as Empire unveils a plan for breeding improvements in upstate NY.

repent 12-01-2006 12:36 AM

are sumitas and that Revolution guy related?
they both are a little out of touch with reality.
Ive heard of thinking outside the box, but come on.


Repent

sumitas 12-06-2006 08:29 PM

More from Empire today...
http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=36647

http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=36638

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-06-2006 09:05 PM

it will never happen..they can throw as much money as they want..the bottom line is keeping ny racing ..the way it is or at least ny haveing a say in what gets done..from what i read the lame duck recomendations mean nothing...nyra will keep it as it should be ..maybee under a diffrent name but still nyra ..at the core .who have and allways will bring us the best product ..ill bet deep in the money backing of empire the dark lords of poly are spreading money around..in hopes of taking down anouther multi track venue...

oracle80 12-07-2006 06:52 AM


Yeah thats just swell.
Sumitas, you need help buddy, real help.
You are following behind a group led by Bomze and Brida?
LOL!!!!
Thats gotta be the funniest thing I ever read or heard.
See how it works is, if they take the high road you want the low road.
Ah, but you'll figure that out soon enough.

sumitas 12-07-2006 05:47 PM

I am not privy to what you allude to. Judging substantively on the proposals, Empire's is the most far reaching, clearly.

oracle80 12-07-2006 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sumitas
I am not privy to what you allude to. Judging substantively on the proposals, Empire's is the most far reaching, clearly.

http://www.saratogian.com/site/index...id=17708&rfi=8

Read this and wake up and smell the coffee.
You are obviously under some sort of voodoo spell.
Please note the part where they failed to commit to not raising seat prices or boxes. Its the same thing as saying that they will. Enjoy!!!

sumitas 12-07-2006 05:59 PM

Good article. Actually i like the NYRA model if they could adopt the Empire safety and improvement plan for the tracks.

oracle80 12-07-2006 06:07 PM

Come on Sumitas, doesn't it just give you the warm and fuzzies?!!
The dreamy notion that saratoga could soon have tripled or quadrupled seat prices and liscenses!!! Boxes being sold for 50 grand with all the old patrons kicked out of them?!!!
OH!!! And the workouts that for so long have been free to all fans and the greatest joy in all of saratoga(even better than the races) now being charged for!!!! Even a fee for picnic tables!!!!!
6 dollar hot dogs, 5 dollar cokes, 8 dollar beers!!! It will be just like the Derby everyday, except for the great racing!!!
Allowances being left for the cheapest possible claiming races(split divisions of course) so as to save on purse money expenses!!!
Luxury boxes all over the infield, obstructing the view of the races!!!
I'm tellin ya, life will be a dream(sha boom sha boom)!!!
You just don't get it do you?
NYRA has given fans a free ride with their low costs to witness the greatest racing in the world. Had they gouged and gouged like their rivals, they could have stockpiled enough cash to have never had any worries. But as not for profit they didnt do that, because it made no sense to do so.
NYRA has consistently put on the greatest year round racing of any circuit.
NYRA has been progressive to players(especially under Schwartz) in lowering takeouts displaying that they understood what drives parimutuel wagering and keeping players in the game.
Where were these folks at Enpire before they thought they could their mitts on slot money?
WHy weren't they proposing great changes then? KNow why? Because there was no money in it for them, thats why. They only cared when they thought they could make a bundle.
As A NY breeder you are twice as sickening and display no comprehension of what NYRA has done to support both breeders and owners and the economy of New York State. A record number of NY bred races will be run this year, reaping millions in breeder and owner bonuses and inflating the value of farms and ny breds. This money DIRECTLY flows back into the economy of New York State.
Obviously you are "part of the team"!!! How wonderful for you!!! Do you have little hats and buttons also? They will be real collectors items in a few years.


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