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cakes44 06-29-2023 10:03 PM

Most underrated horse
 
I'm talking all-time. It seems that these days the world has to do "Mount Rushmore" and crap like that in every sport. But there have been some incredible horses that don't necessarily get mentioned with the all-time greats enough in my opinion.

I'm going with Affirmed. Man his 4-year-old season was incredible.

NavalOrange 06-30-2023 08:06 AM

My Big Boy

50 10 12 10 $1,196,102

casp0555 06-30-2023 11:10 AM

he was a workhorse blue collar type

Saginaw :{>:
41 21 6 3 $974K

moses 06-30-2023 12:58 PM

Personally I think Eclipse doesn’t get enough credit.

Conrad 06-30-2023 06:43 PM

Wise Dan

casp0555 07-01-2023 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Conrad (Post 1173943)
Wise Dan

:{>:

cakes44 07-01-2023 03:17 PM

Another one I’ll throw out there: Lady’s Secret

Was Ruffian actually better than her?

blackthroatedwind 07-01-2023 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1173968)
Another one I’ll throw out there: Lady’s Secret

Was Ruffian actually better than her?

Seriously?

King Glorious 07-02-2023 11:02 AM

Go for Wand. I don’t think there are many horses that can be fast enough to run 7f in 1:21, come back just nine days later and run 10f in 2:00 4/5, then return a month later and go 9f in 1:45 4/5 (close to Secretariat’s track record). I was devastated when she broke down in the Distaff but people forget that she was going toe to toe with Bayakoa, a damn good horse in her own right. That Go for Wand did all that as a 3yo filly was incredible.

King Glorious 07-02-2023 11:13 AM

I would also submit Lammtarra for consideration. Few know of him because he only ran in Europe and only ran four times. But consider this:

-Broke his maiden in October of his 2yo season

-Didn’t run again for seven months then won the Epsom Derby in his first start as a 3yo (track record I believe)

-Won the King George next

-Won the Arc

RolloTomasi 07-02-2023 12:14 PM

Can't wrap my head around what the criteria is for being considered "underrated".

So far, based on the horses named, the only criteria I could come up with is the horse has to be considered a Top 100 Racehorses of all time...

Affirmed 12
Ruffian 35
Go For Wand 72
Lady's Secret 76
Lammtarra 11
Wise Dan 81

FATPIANO 07-03-2023 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Glorious (Post 1173975)
Go for Wand. I don’t think there are many horses that can be fast enough to run 7f in 1:21, come back just nine days later and run 10f in 2:00 4/5, then return a month later and go 9f in 1:45 4/5 (close to Secretariat’s track record). I was devastated when she broke down in the Distaff but people forget that she was going toe to toe with Bayakoa, a damn good horse in her own right. That Go for Wand did all that as a 3yo filly was incredible.

Loved her too.
But look again at 1980...The Bid
No one has ever had a better year!!!

kp319 07-03-2023 10:17 AM

Invasor.

cakes44 07-03-2023 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1173970)
Seriously?

Worth a discussion IMO…especially with nothing else going on he board.

Who do you got, Personal Ensign or Lady’s Secret?

RolloTomasi 07-03-2023 05:22 PM

If we are talking about good horses that rarely make a Top 100 list:

Paradise Creek
Manila
Singspiel
Kotashaan
Fantastic Light
Steinlen
Formal Gold
Forty Niner
Chief's Crown
Gulch
Broad Brush
Lost Code
Snow Chief
Flawlessly

blackthroatedwind 07-03-2023 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 1173994)
If we are talking about good horses that rarely make a Top 100 list:

Paradise Creek
Manila
Singspiel
Kotashaan
Fantastic Light
Steinlen
Formal Gold
Forty Niner
Chief's Crown
Gulch
Broad Brush
Lost Code
Snow Chief
Flawlessly

I like this list.

Conrad 07-04-2023 12:29 PM

I was a big fan of Roses In May, winner of the Whitney and Dubai World Cup, and second in the Donn (Saint Liam) & Breeders Cup Classic (Ghostzapper).

cakes44 07-04-2023 01:59 PM

:tro:
Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 1173994)
If we are talking about good horses that rarely make a Top 100 list:

Paradise Creek
Manila
Singspiel
Kotashaan
Fantastic Light
Steinlen
Formal Gold
Forty Niner
Chief's Crown
Gulch
Broad Brush
Lost Code
Snow Chief
Flawlessly


freddymo 07-04-2023 07:41 PM

Conquistador Cielo
Be Bullish
Spooky Molder
Storm Flag Flying
Storm Cat
Dubai Millennium
Calibrachoa
Discreet Cat
Fu Peg
Xtra Heat

RolloTomasi 07-04-2023 08:41 PM

Dubai Millennium is one of the highest rated UK runners of all time (I think he's in Timeform's top ten & was #36 in a UK/Irish Top 100 I looked up).

Also, Fantastic Light is also rated a lot higher than I thought (was number 40 on the same UK/Irish list).

I'll switch him out for Sahkee.


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