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ninetoone 11-06-2021 07:01 PM

TVG analyst
 
One of the TVG analysts keeps referencing that he thinks there is probably a "gentleman's agreement" regarding the pace in the Classic because the 2 jockeys on the speed share the same agent. Perhaps I am naïve, but really??? A gentleman's agreement in a 6 million dollar race? I highly doubt it...

knickslions2 11-06-2021 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ninetoone (Post 1159253)
One of the TVG analysts keeps referencing that he thinks there is probably a "gentleman's agreement" regarding the pace in the Classic because the 2 jockeys on the speed share the same agent. Perhaps I am naïve, but really??? A gentleman's agreement in a 6 million dollar race? I highly doubt it...

Don’t doubt anything in racing. Baffert had two speed horses yesterday and one sat back.

Dahoss 11-06-2021 07:46 PM

Heartwarming superfecta there and obviously Johnny wanted no part of the pace. Was there an agreement? Who knows. Does it look bad? Of course.

But racing only cares about how racing looks to.people.outside of the game. Not those that support it with their money.

knickslions2 11-06-2021 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1159258)
Heartwarming superfecta there and obviously Johnny wanted no part of the pace. Was there an agreement? Who knows. Does it look bad? Of course.

But racing only cares about how racing looks to.people.outside of the game. Not those that support it with their money.

I didn’t think Medina spirit was near fast enough to contest Knicks go which I was surprised he was 3-1. I think medina spirit ran for second

Dahoss 11-06-2021 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1159260)
I didn’t think Medina spirit was near fast enough to contest Knicks go which I was surprised he was 3-1. I think medina spirit ran for second

I didn't think I'd ever see a 44 second half mile in the Distaff but we did.

My point is, Velazquez was obviously yanking him back early. Was there an agreement? Probably not. But I don't recall many Baffert runners who concede the lead to other horses.

Its just a bad look and the fact there was talk of it before the race, even unfounded talk looks worse.

knickslions2 11-06-2021 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 1159261)
I didn't think I'd ever see a 44 second half mile in the Distaff but we did.

My point is, Velazquez was obviously yanking him back early. Was there an agreement? Probably not. But I don't recall many Baffert runners who concede the lead to other horses.

Its just a bad look and the fact there was talk of it before the race, even unfounded talk looks worse.

Ya if there’s talk it’s bad look but I think Medina had no shot pressing Knicks. I thought pinehurst yesterday was a bigger issue for baffert as that horse should have pushed corniche. Not sure why they even entered the horse if they were letting corniche walk.

Dahoss 11-06-2021 09:10 PM

Today’s race reminded me of the 2004 Classic where Velazquez conceded an easy lead on Roses in May to Ghostzapper and basically rode for 2nd throughout.

jms62 11-06-2021 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1159263)
Ya if there’s talk it’s bad look but I think Medina had no shot pressing Knicks. I thought pinehurst yesterday was a bigger issue for baffert as that horse should have pushed corniche. Not sure why they even entered the horse if they were letting corniche walk.

Because he had enough speed to engage and harass any horse that threatened Corniche. He was the muscle if needed. We've seen that before with his horses.

King Glorious 11-06-2021 11:47 PM

This is why I don’t get in an uproar about trainers that cheat with drugs. I’ve said it before but I came into the game being taught that cheating was just a normal part of the game in many ways and I’ve never thought any different. It’s called inherent risks.


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