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eurobounce 11-15-2006 11:41 AM

Top 4 2 year olds in your opinion
 
1) Street Sense
2) Chase City
3) Circular Quay
4) Horse Greeley

BellamyRd. 11-15-2006 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
1) Street Sense
2) Chase City
3) Circular Quay
4) Horse Greeley

where's Wonderful? I'm not sold on Sense, no matter how many lengths he won by~2 y/o champ, but no derby slam dunk, well it never is

Cunningham Racing 11-15-2006 11:48 AM

Colts I suppose you mean:

1) Street Sense
2) Scat Daddy
3) Nobiz Like Shobiz
4) Tiz Wonderful

...have been the most impressive to me to this point....tough to say, as I still think many of the better horses of this generation probably have yet to run....certainly, Minefield and Napa Cat and some other allowance types to this point have a lot of talent....I still think some forgotten horses who are hurt like Run Alex Run are very talented too...Great Hunter is the only colt on the West coast that I think is genuine so far...

eurobounce 11-15-2006 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BellamyRd.
where's Wonderful? I'm not sold on Sense, no matter how many lengths he won by~2 y/o champ, but no derby slam dunk, well it never is

I agree. He definately does not have the running style to win the Derby. If he is that far back in the Derby there is no way he passes 18 or 19 horses. But he loves Churchill, should get better and if they can get more speed in him then he could be dangerous. I really really LOVE Chace City.

eurobounce 11-15-2006 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
Colts I suppose you mean:

1) Street Sense
2) Scat Daddy
3) Nobiz Like Shobiz
4) Tiz Wonderful

...have been the most impressive to me to this point....tough to say, as I still think many of the better horses of this generation probably have yet to run....certainly, Minefield and Napa Cat and some other allowance types to this point have a lot of talent....I still think some forgotten horses who are hurt like Run Alex Run are very talented too...

You know, I think Tiz Wonderful is a talented horse. He will prob be better than a couple in my top 4. But right now, I would have to leave him out. Nobiz Like Shobiz just hasnt shown me enough yet. But those two have great potential. Prob more so that Quay and Greeley.

SniperSB23 11-15-2006 11:51 AM

1) Street Sense
2) Great Hunter
3) Green Vegas
4) Tiz Wonderful

Notional could move on there shortly but I can't put him on there off of one maiden race.

eurobounce 11-15-2006 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
1) Street Sense
2) Great Hunter
3) Green Vegas
4) Tiz Wonderful

Notional could move on there shortly but I can't put him on there off of one maiden race.

Can you tell me a little about Green Vegas? I do not know much about him.

Cunningham Racing 11-15-2006 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
You know, I think Tiz Wonderful is a talented horse. He will prob be better than a couple in my top 4. But right now, I would have to leave him out. Nobiz Like Shobiz just hasnt shown me enough yet. But those two have great potential. Prob more so that Quay and Greeley.

Its so early to tell which are genuine at this point...sveral will fizzle out and several will maure into better, abd then even more will surface in a few months as 3-year-olds....beware or Darley's expensive babies, as I hear they are LOADED for the Gulfstream meet with their best 2-year-old maidens....

Hell, Bernie Flint's colt is a helluva runner...the Unbridled Express horse....his problem is that he is an Unbridled's Song - thus he has major soundness issues...But he can REALLY run....

Cajungator26 11-15-2006 11:56 AM

1.) Scat Daddy
2.) Street Sense
3.) Chace City
4.) Tiz Wonderful

Crazy as it sounds, I still think Unbridled Express is your 2007 Kentucky Derby winner. :D

Cunningham Racing 11-15-2006 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Can you tell me a little about Green Vegas? I do not know much about him.

I can because I cover him frequently and have seen him race live....ahhh, he's nice, but is he nice against FL-breds.....we'll leave it at that :D

Cunningham Racing 11-15-2006 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
1.) Scat Daddy
2.) Street Sense
3.) Chace City
4.) Tiz Wonderful

Crazy as it sounds, I still think Unbridled Express is your 2007 Kentucky Derby winner. :D

I love your #1 :D .....and you certainly have a colt with plenty of talent if you like Unbridled Express to win the Derby because that horse trains like a freight train in the mornings ta CD - but I think he is pretty unsound...

Cajungator26 11-15-2006 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
I love your #1 :D .....and you certainly have a colt with plenty of talent if you like Unbridled Express to win the Derby because that horse trains like a freight train in the mornings ta CD - but I think he is pretty unsound...

Probably so... most of the Unbridled Song's are, albeit extremely talented. Do you know if he's crooked? If they play their cards right and keep him sound, you never know... :cool:

SniperSB23 11-15-2006 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Can you tell me a little about Green Vegas? I do not know much about him.

Florida bred that is yet to step up and take on the big boys. I think he'll be a good one but he has a lot to prove although he's won twice over a mile already.

Kasept 11-15-2006 12:05 PM

Street Sense
No Biz Like Shobiz
Great Hunter
Circular Quay/Scat Daddy (Since one of them will get hurt)

Honorable Mention: C P West

Seattleallstar 11-15-2006 12:06 PM

Circular Quay
one of the sales toppers the Sheiks bought
some horse in Ballydoyle that is to emerge
some horse in Philly Park
the green monkey

Cannon Shell 11-15-2006 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
I really really LOVE Chace City.

I believe that Chase City is finished.

eurobounce 11-15-2006 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I believe that Chase City is finished.

Where did you read that? I know they werent going to race him anymore as a 2 year old after his last race. Put I didnt know he was injured.

Cunningham Racing 11-15-2006 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Probably so... most of the Unbridled Song's are, albeit extremely talented. Do you know if he's crooked? If they play their cards right and keep him sound, you never know... :cool:

GORGEOUS body from the knees up, but unfortuantely he is crooked and not a good mover :(

Cajungator26 11-15-2006 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
GORGEOUS body from the knees up, but unfortuantely he is crooked and not a good mover :(

That's a shame... imagine what these Unbridled's Song babies could do if they were actually built straight. Is Octave crooked like that too?

Cannon Shell 11-15-2006 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Where did you read that? I know they werent going to race him anymore as a 2 year old after his last race. Put I didnt know he was injured.

Did not read it but it is true. Major problem. I'll see if it is ok to say without putting anyone in a bad spot.


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