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Benny 02-10-2020 09:01 AM

NYRA p6 force outs every 2 weeks
 
I missed this until today, will look for yesterdays payout.

https://www.nyra.com/aqueduct/news/m...ing-february-9

paid out $ 89,000 from a pool of $ 2.5 mil

ScottJ 02-11-2020 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Benny (Post 1134860)
I missed this until today, will look for yesterdays payout.

https://www.nyra.com/aqueduct/news/m...ing-february-9

paid out $ 89,000 from a pool of $ 2.5 mil

The carryover jackpot was $360,000 representing about 14.4% of the final total pool. With a takeout rate on the wager of 20.0%, the expected value was -5.6% which is not as strong as some recent payout days where there was a positive expectation.

Bottom line is that if playing the Empire-6 with a mandatory payout is "your brand of Vodka", every other Sunday at Aqueduct is the place to be.

Alabama Stakes 02-11-2020 12:05 PM

Why don’t they get rid of that foolish wager and bring back the real pick 6, or at least make it a buck. It’s really time to look at the too low minimum bets at NYRA. If they get those minimums up with successful results, maybe the others will follow suit.

joeydb 02-11-2020 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1134899)
Why don’t they get rid of that foolish wager and bring back the real pick 6, or at least make it a buck. It’s really time to look at the too low minimum bets at NYRA. If they get those minimums up with successful results, maybe the others will follow suit.

Would it be possible to have both traditional Pick-6 (I still like your $1 idea) and the jackpot one, especially if there is overlap but not perfect sync between the legs of the two wagers?

On the one hand when the jackpot gets high, it would draw more wagers, but then again sometimes the traditional one would accumulate as well. I remember that the traditional Pick-6 had a lot of handle, Now that the public has the Empire 6, maybe the overall Pick-6 player pie in NY would be large enough to support both bets.

Alabama Stakes 02-11-2020 01:05 PM

Didn’t they lower minimums for tax reasons that no longer apply. It’s crazy to me that the triple in the last used to be a deuce, when a deuce was much more money than it is now. The outdoor bingo peeps are playing slots now so make it more attractive to the bettors.

Big Peps 02-11-2020 03:53 PM

Great sequence really. the 10-1 in the 4th eliminated a ton of tickets everything from the 5th through 8th made sense and the last was a crap shoot no matter what way you looked at it. I had 4 horses in the last and whiffed. Played a $44 ticket.

I am typically a pick 4 and pick 5 player but crazy not to play on those payout days.

Benny 02-11-2020 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 1134906)
Would it be possible to have both traditional Pick-6 (I still like your $1 idea) and the jackpot one, especially if there is overlap but not perfect sync between the legs of the two wagers?
:)

On the one hand when the jackpot gets high, it would draw more wagers, but then again sometimes the traditional one would accumulate as well. I remember that the traditional Pick-6 had a lot of handle, Now that the public has the Empire 6, maybe the overall Pick-6 player pie in NY would be large enough to support both bets.

I believe they said they intend to have the two different p6's . But it will take time and see how the Empire 6 goes. This is a first step w/ the 2 week forceouts. as it doesn't tie up alot of $ out of play. Think andy serling had a hand in this .idea :)


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