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RHT2004 02-16-2019 10:10 AM

Who was better?
 
Royal Delta or Songbird?

casp0555 02-16-2019 10:15 AM

here we go....

RHT2004 02-16-2019 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by casp0555 (Post 1121982)
here we go....

Im with you...... Royal Delta. We should celebrate her today.

casp0555 02-16-2019 10:29 AM

I usually don't get into these types of debates but I agree with you...basically from speed figures alone, RD would have smoked the bird

Alabama Stakes 02-16-2019 11:28 AM

Songbird all the way....

blackthroatedwind 02-16-2019 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1121979)
Royal Delta or Songbird?

Can't help yourself.

Who was better, Alazo or Secretariat?

RHT2004 02-16-2019 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1121999)
Can't help yourself.

Who was better, Alazo or Secretariat?

I was a big Alazo fan. And i loved that Mott horse you picked in the Travers a few years back. Neither panned out.

knickslions2 02-16-2019 12:08 PM

Give me Songbird. 13-15 wins 9 grade 1 wins.

Alabama Stakes 02-16-2019 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by knickslions2 (Post 1122004)
Give me Songbird. 13-15 wins 9 grade 1 wins.

You mean 14-15 right ? See avatar.

knickslions2 02-16-2019 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1122005)
You mean 14-15 right ? See avatar.

Lol

cakes44 02-16-2019 02:26 PM

Havre de Grace

RHT2004 02-16-2019 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44 (Post 1122027)
Havre de Grace

She'd be last of the 3.

blackthroatedwind 02-16-2019 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1122036)
She'd be last of the 3.

With all due respect, you do know she buried Royal Delta in the Beldame, right?

Alabama Stakes 02-16-2019 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1122036)
She'd be last of the 3.

Anti Fox Hill Farm sentiment?

RHT2004 02-16-2019 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1122055)
With all due respect, you do know she buried Royal Delta in the Beldame, right?

Ok a few things. 1st I'm talking full body of work. Because if it was based on fastest race its easily RD. I would assume you prefer RD, but also sharp enough to argue both sides. In that Beldame, HDG was 2-5, RD was a 3yr old facing olders. It all matters IMO.

blackthroatedwind 02-16-2019 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1122059)
Ok a few things. 1st I'm talking full body of work. Because if it was based on fastest race its easily RD. I would assume you prefer RD, but also sharp enough to argue both sides. In that Beldame, HDG was 2-5, RD was a 3yr old facing olders. It all matters IMO.

If they all ran their best races, Royal Delta would be first, Havre de Grace second, and Songbird third. However, if you went by age, Songbird was clearly the best 2YO ( I don't think Havre de Grace ran until she was 3 ), Royal Delta passed Songbird in the latter part of their 3YO seasons, but Songbird had the best overall 3YO season of any of them. As they got older, the other two passed her, but it's a tricky question.

Going overboard to show that Songbird wasn't that good is getting you in trouble. Just because some people are unrealistic about her doesn't mean she was some sort of bum. She was pretty damn good.


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