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SentToStud 11-04-2006 08:02 PM

2006 Horse Of The Year
 
1. Invasor
2, Bernardini
3. Barbaro
4. Lava Man
5. (tie) Spooky Mulder / Andromeda's Hero

Sightseek 11-04-2006 08:03 PM

INVASOR....he's the best! :D (Geesh, Kenny Mayne has taken over my head!)

Thunder Gulch 11-04-2006 08:09 PM

No question...Invasor

letswastemoney 11-04-2006 08:55 PM

Why would you even mention Andromeda's Hero and Spooky Mulder with that company?

Danzig 11-05-2006 12:25 AM

invasor for top older, and for HOY.
anyone still entertaining thoughts of barbaro for top 3 yo??? he certainly did better at churchill in the spring than bernie did in the fall.....come on, i know he really has no shot. but still....

jpops757 11-05-2006 07:22 AM

Invasor for sure but if you remember only one horse has beaten him. Just think about it.

King Glorious 11-05-2006 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig188
invasor for top older, and for HOY.
anyone still entertaining thoughts of barbaro for top 3 yo??? he certainly did better at churchill in the spring than bernie did in the fall.....come on, i know he really has no shot. but still....

Did he? Bernardini faced only two of the horses in this race that Barbaro faced in the Derby and beat them both as Barbaro did. He also beat Lava Man, Perfect Drift, GW, Premium Tap, Giacomo, and others.......a much better field of horses than what Barbaro beat in the Derby.

To the subject, it's Invasor easily. Right now that is.

King Glorious 11-05-2006 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jpops757
Invasor for sure but if you remember only one horse has beaten him. Just think about it.

What happens if Discreet Cat wins the Cigar by 15 in 1:32???? Invasor probably still get it but I think it could get interesting.

Danzig 11-05-2006 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Glorious
Did he? Bernardini faced only two of the horses in this race that Barbaro faced in the Derby and beat them both as Barbaro did. He also beat Lava Man, Perfect Drift, GW, Premium Tap, Giacomo, and others.......a much better field of horses than what Barbaro beat in the Derby.

To the subject, it's Invasor easily. Right now that is.

what was barbaros winning margin over those colts back in may?? oh, and there is the fact that barbaro won at churchill, while bernardini did not.

look, i just put that out there--i have no thought AT ALL that bernardini won't get top 3yo.

Zaf 11-05-2006 09:56 AM

1. Invasor
2. Bernardini

King Glorious 11-05-2006 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig188
what was barbaros winning margin over those colts back in may?? oh, and there is the fact that barbaro won at churchill, while bernardini did not.

look, i just put that out there--i have no thought AT ALL that bernardini won't get top 3yo.

Barbaro won because he didn't face Invasor. There are a lot of horses that won at Churchill this year. Doesn't mean they are better than horses that didn't. I know what u are saying but I think the quality of the fields was just too different to compare the race results.

Danzig 11-05-2006 10:10 AM

...anyone still entertaining thoughts of barbaro for top 3 yo??? he certainly did better at churchill in the spring than bernie did in the fall.....come on, i know he really has no shot...

that was what i put above

i was asking if anyone was giving him a shot, as some may try to say he's deserving, not suggesting I thought he did at all at this point. sorry if you thought i was being serious about the whole thing.

eurobounce 11-05-2006 10:18 AM

The difference between Dini and Barbaro is that Dini faced and beat older horses and finished 2nd to HOY. He also won a TC race, but he also won bigger races later on in the year than what Barbaro did in the spring. Both are good horses but you can only go by what they have done on the track.

Pedigree Ann 11-05-2006 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Glorious
What happens if Discreet Cat wins the Cigar by 15 in 1:32???? Invasor probably still get it but I think it could get interesting.

Races in Dubai shouldn't have any effect on voting for US awards than English or French ones should. If Discreet Cat can beat Invasor at level weights in the US, that would be different. But DC's people are content to have him beat up on G3 types; he doesn't deserve consideration for a championship on that account alone.

In 1971, no one would have argued that the best 3yo to have raced that year was Hoist the Flag. But he broke down after two starts (allowance and the Bay Shore S), so the championship went to Canonero II (Kentucky Derby, Preakness) over Bold Reason (Travers, American Derby, Hollywood Derby). You don't get the championships if you don't run in the top races.

Danzig 11-05-2006 10:23 AM

had discreet run yesterday, he'd have gotten three pounds from invasor. wonder what the outcome would have been...

Danzig 11-05-2006 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I don't care if Discreet Cat wins by 100 lengths he has 0% chance of winning HOY or 3 year old.

true.
DC is supposed to aim for the dwc next year, and invasor may go as well. ah, a rematch. the excitement continues.


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