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Has Bernie already maxed out ? Him being a 3yr old, normally you wpould think he has lots of upside but with his accomplishment has he got there early and thus will he digress? My feeling are we will never see his best because of his breeding value and thus no 4 or 5 yr old season.

I don't think we've seen his best. A.P. Indy's typically mature later and I honestly believe that this horse hasn't been maxed out yet. It would really be something to be able to see him run next year, but I doubt that we're going to...

I agree with the previous posters who think we have not seen Bernie's best yet. I am hoping the powers-that-be will afford us the privilege of seeing this dynamic horse run as a four-year-old. I know it is a longshot, but it certainly is possible. :)

I'd be shocked if he didn't run in the World Cup. It would be like Tiger Woods skipping the Masters.

Actually if Discreet Cat skipped the World Cup it would be the shock, not Bernardini. Bernardini doesn't already have a win over the Dubai track and Bernardini has the pedigree and no soundness issues that would make it logical that he would be retired because he has exactly what broodmare owners with the top mares are looking for. Discreet Cat might earn more on the track than he can in the breeding shed.

Is that what your brother told you?

Pillow... it's his FRIEND'S brother, not HIS brother. LMAO :D

Honestly, I think he is going to win this race by 2 lengths over Invasor, and then maybe 7-8 lengths back from there for third

pretty close to my thoughtonly I include Lava Man. The only one I feel can suprise here is Lawyer Ron, if Pletcher can have an impact on his style.

it's my opinion that those who just bough ap warrior and announced a 20k stud fee are holding their breath and crossing any and every crossable body part that bernardini wins by a country mile.


20k. they're idiots. but of course there will be bigger idiots who will pay that for him.

a fool and his money....

I think there are two ways to answer this question. The first answer is that yes, I think he's already as good as he's going to be as a racehorse. I don't think he's going to get any better. So yes, I think he's maxed out his abilities already. Now the second part is that no, I don't think we've seen all of that ability yet. Think of it this way. Michael Jordan at 35 was not going to get any better as a player. He had already reached his maximum abilities. But put him on the court in a game against high school players and u won't have to see him use those full abilities in order to get the job done. So the abilities are there but he just doesn't use all of it. Same thing with Bernardini. At least in my opinion. I watched the JCGC with interest. He ended up running a 2:01 that day and I believe that had it been necessary, he could have easily went in the 1:59 flat range. So in order for me to think he can get even better, I'd have to believe that he's going to be capable of running in the 1:58 range and there just haven't been many horses in the history of the game that can do that. So I think he can show more than what we've seen but that the ability is already there and he won't get better.

im not sure bout dini's maxed out potential..though I do know that he is better than Barbaro(unfortunatley that will never be proved) as of today.

See, I don't believe that for one minute...

I think that Barbaro was the better of the two, but we'll never know.

You all know who I think was the better of the two.

As for Bernardini's potential...I think that he is very capable of breaking 2 minutes at Churchill Downs this Saturday. This horse has been improving, and I think that he would keep improving into his four year old year based on how he has matured thus far, and the fact that he is an A.P. Indy. However, we may never know how good this horse really is because it is said that he will be retired. Although, I am still skeptical of those claims.

Derby, there wasn’t a horse on the face of the earth (including Bernardini) who could beat Barbaro that day (only that day). Preakness, Barbaro looked too ranked for my eyes anyway not to mention what Dini did to the rest. Belmont, strictly speculation, Jazil would have paid back Barbaro for Florida Derby.

Why would Jazil have paid back Barbaro for the Florida Derby? Jazil didn't even run in the Florida Derby. :confused:

sorry, was it woodmemorial ?? seems like ages ago, or may be im getting too old too fast !!

Jazil DID run in the Wood, but Bob and John was the winner of that race. LOL

And for the record, the Preakness was the race that worried me the most with Barbaro... IMO, the Belmont would have been a romp for him. He was made to go long...