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Benny 04-30-2016 05:38 PM

CD blockng video for TVG & 4nj bets
 
you can bet, bt not view - yeah right :zz:

Pants II 05-02-2016 05:34 PM

They are marketing geniuses, no doubt. As we all know...the attention span of the average American is strong and non-wavering.

Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, will join Twinspires.com just for the chance to watch AND wager on the Derby.

And if they don't then oh well we'll tank the company, give ourselves big bonuses, and ask for a bailout for our short-sightedness and outright greed.

ONTHERAIL 05-03-2016 12:20 PM

LOL..Just logged on TVG to play todays card, and found out..Guess who will NOT be playing Churchill today..Stupid asses! Is the live feed for TVG TV blacked out as well? Mind boggling!

Benny 05-04-2016 10:41 AM

NBC SPORTS coverage
 
here's the dope
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...-week-coverage

seems no one wants to address the TVG blackout, the old , if it doesn't affect me,i don't care.

Pants II 05-04-2016 12:01 PM

I'd like to know if it's CDI blocking TVG from taking wagers or if it's TVG doubling down on stupid after the video was removed.

jms62 05-04-2016 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants II (Post 1063295)
I'd like to know if it's CDI blocking TVG from taking wagers or if it's TVG doubling down on stupid after the video was removed.

We can bet but not watch...

Pants II 05-04-2016 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1063296)
We can bet but not watch...

Not a big deal. But then again I have at least 3 monitors going on weekends. :D

jms62 05-04-2016 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pants II (Post 1063307)
Not a big deal. But then again I have at least 3 monitors going on weekends. :D

NBC Sports channel will be televising Oaks Day from 12-6:30 and Derby Undercard so I'll turn off the sound and turn it back on when they are loading in the gate.

Pants II 05-04-2016 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1063308)
NBC Sports channel will be televising Oaks Day from 12-6:30 and Derby Undercard so I'll turn off the sound and turn it back on when they are loading in the gate.

I don't even listen to the race call. I'll listen to it on the replay though. It just hasn't been the same without Durkin.

I've got stubborn ears.

Kasept 05-04-2016 01:27 PM

TVG not authorized to show Churchill's live races
By Matt Hegarty

Churchill Downs has not authorized Television Games Network to broadcast the track’s races live on its flagship network or on TVG’s website for this year’s spring meet, an official for TVG said on Wednesday.

The signal blackout on TVG’s most widely distributed network and the company’s account-wagering platform began on Saturday, when Churchill began its spring meet, according to John Hindman, the legal counsel for TVG. However, the live television signal is available on TVG2, a network that TVG rebranded after acquiring its competitor, HRTV, early last year. TVG2 is available on far fewer televisions than the flagship station.

Customers of TVG are still able to bet on Churchill’s races through TVG’s website, the officials said.

Though Churchill officials did not respond to requests for comment by early afternoon, the blackout is likely related to Churchill’s position as a competitor to TVG in the account-wagering market. Churchill’s account-wagering operation, twinspires.com, was showing the track’s races live on Wednesday and taking bets on its races.

The weeklong run-up to the Kentucky Derby is the most important promotional period of the year for account-wagering operators, as the companies attempt to exploit national attention on the Derby to entice casual racing fans to their operations. Compared to committed racing fans, casual fans are far less likely to already have a betting account.

Churchill was a former partner in HRTV with another racing company, The Stronach Group, but Churchill sold its stake in 2014, the year before TVG acquired the network. With the acquisition, TVG gained the signal rights to all of the tracks owned by The Stronach Group for seven years, as well as the existing contracts held by HRTV. At the time, Churchill had distribution contracts with HRTV, but the company has not commented since the acquisition on the term of those contracts.

Pants II 05-04-2016 01:36 PM

So I take it the relationship with Churchill and Betfair isn't overly friendly. :D

I know it's silly of me to assume that Churchill is using an angle here but if they were competent enough to do so one would believe that they are looking into their own horse racing channel. Whether independent or in partnership with say...NBC Sports who has extra channels on satellite providers and some cable outlets specifically for premier league.

They should look into it, if not. And give me an advisors fee or $3.00 elite special club rebate.

Benny 05-04-2016 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1063296)
We can bet but not watch...

jms empty your mailbox

jms62 05-04-2016 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benny (Post 1063343)
jms empty your mailbox

Done

ONTHERAIL 05-05-2016 11:35 AM

Anyone know of any other way around it..I will not sign up for Twin Spires..Specifically because they are holding people hostage here to open an account with them..Just won't do it! There seems to be streams set for Derby Day, but nothing for today? Any ideas?

Thanks!

casp0555 05-05-2016 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ONTHERAIL (Post 1063431)
Anyone know of any other way around it..I will not sign up for Twin Spires..Specifically because they are holding people hostage here to open an account with them..Just won't do it! There seems to be streams set for Derby Day, but nothing for today? Any ideas?

Thanks!

I have an account with TW and dont bet a cent through them....of course I live in a brain dead state that doesn't allow ADW. Watch all the races through them except for GP, NYRA, and Keeneland reason based on video quality, not availability

Pants II 05-05-2016 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ONTHERAIL (Post 1063431)
Anyone know of any other way around it..I will not sign up for Twin Spires..Specifically because they are holding people hostage here to open an account with them..Just won't do it! There seems to be streams set for Derby Day, but nothing for today? Any ideas?

Thanks!

I'm not certain if they're going to show it but you can try...

http://www.twinspires.com/tstv-lite

If that doesn't work try...

http://www.nbcsports.com/live-extra

pointman 05-05-2016 04:06 PM

Considering that racing at Churchill is relevant for about two days a year these days, come Sunday, I would think that very few people will care that Churchill is not being shown on TVG or 4nj bets.

Kasept 05-05-2016 04:32 PM

Update on TVG and Churchill Downs video..

John Asher, VP Racing Communictions, Churchill Downs: “TVG currently has rights to offer wagering on races at Churchill Downs Racetrack during the Spring Meet and we have made a proposal that would provide the network with streaming rights and enable it to televise most of our track’s Spring Meet races. Exceptions include the Kentucky Derby and Kentucky Oaks, and Derby Week stakes races that will be televised by our national broadcast partners (NBC Sports/NBC Sports Network). We feel our proposal is reasonable and would benefit both parties, and it remains on the table.”

Benny 05-05-2016 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1063451)
Update on TVG and Churchill Downs video..

John Asher, VP Racing Communictions, Churchill Downs: “TVG currently has rights to offer wagering on races at Churchill Downs Racetrack during the Spring Meet and we have made a proposal that would provide the network with streaming rights and enable it to televise most of our track’s Spring Meet races. Exceptions include the Kentucky Derby and Kentucky Oaks, and Derby Week stakes races that will be televised by our national broadcast partners (NBC Sports/NBC Sports Network). We feel our proposal is reasonable and would benefit both parties, and it remains on the table.”

Why the TVG exceptions when xpressbet,drf,nyra et al can show all streaming ? This is all BS by CD, i will bet much less because of it and loss of continuity.
. CD signal for the rest of the meet is a joke and not wanted .what a deal, ice in the winter. So much for industry cooperation to build the game.

Pants II 05-05-2016 07:26 PM

I don't blame Churchill for this. It's their agreement with NBC. If you want to take issue that is where it should be directed.

The "pay wall" for the Kentucky Derby is ridiculous. NBC needs to reconsider it.


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