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asudevil 08-07-2015 09:40 PM

Edgar Prado has had enough
 
It's time for Mr. Prado to hang up his tack. The performance today on Run of the River in the Spa 8th was absolutely deplorable. Yes, I bet the horse. Yes, he was a key in my multi-race plays. He did everything possible to not give the best horse in the race any opportunity to win. I won't describe each call, watch the replay and shake your head. My frustration was validated by the bevy of tweets from well respected handicappers. A friend mentioned that Shug may have wanted to give Edgar an easy W at the Spa. Probably true.

EP has had a tremendous career. I remember when he broke in on the MD circuit. Success came quickly and lasted for a good 15 years. It's enough already. Kind of like Willie Mays when he played for the Mets at the end of his career.

blackthroatedwind 08-08-2015 12:30 AM

That was a catastrophically bad ride today and it cost me a lot of money. Very unfortunate. There are very few riders in the room, only one even comes to mind, that would not have won on that horse today.

Kitan 08-08-2015 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1038374)
That was a catastrophically bad ride today and it cost me a lot of money. Very unfortunate. There are very few riders in the room, only one even comes to mind, that would not have won on that horse today.

Even Abel would have won.

Kasept 08-08-2015 05:46 AM

It's tough to watch. There were a lot of Hall of Famers in town for the ceremony for Shug to use, Manny Ycaza, Eddie Maple, Chris McCarron, Jerry Bailey to name a few.. The Klesaris Bros., his long time associates, tried to get him a win in the nightcap too and he actually gave that one a good try rallying wide for 2nd.

cakes44 08-08-2015 07:02 AM

That horse was definitely loaded. Reminds me of Stevens on Gorilla in the 2005 BC Mile.

Alabama Stakes 08-08-2015 08:37 AM

Makes me remember when Chop Chop's knees went south. Great guy though

blackthroatedwind 08-08-2015 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1038401)
Makes me remember when Chop Chop's knees went south. Great guy though

Edgar Prado is a great guy?

freddymo 08-08-2015 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 1038402)
Edgar Prado is a great guy?

Who knew?

hoovesupsideyourhead 08-08-2015 10:41 AM

ive said this a for a year or so ..that he is reached a decline in skills and balls.he may have a few today that he can do well on.its sad to see it unfold.

JimmyEllis 08-08-2015 12:46 PM

He was done a year or so after Barbaro. Hard to believe he's actually significantly worse now. It unfair, IMO, to complain about a poor ride when a poor ride is the expectation going in.

helicopter11 08-30-2015 03:57 PM

This horse is back today in the 10th race with Pardo aboard again. 5 to 1 M/L. A play against?

Alabama Stakes 08-30-2015 04:30 PM

He looked old goin on the track. Hey boss you here ? Cmon by near the channel 10 news booth in the way out to union ave

tanner12oz 08-30-2015 09:49 PM

Seemed okay bringing the #11 home Saturday at boxcars

helicopter11 08-30-2015 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tanner12oz (Post 1041706)
Seemed okay bringing the #11 home Saturday at boxcars

Should he still need to retire?

richard burch 08-30-2015 10:50 PM

just for the record...

RANK48

Edgar Prado 14% WIN 209 41% ITM

2015 Statistics
Starts: 506
Firsts: 70
Seconds: 72
Thirds: 67
Earnings: $3,194,023
Avg. Earnings Per Start: $6,312


Career Statistics:
Starts: 37,591
Firsts: 6,855
Seconds: 5,979
Thirds: 5,218
Earnings: $256,129,238
Avg. Earnings Per Start: $6,814

ranger5830 08-31-2015 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tanner12oz (Post 1041706)
Seemed okay bringing the #11 home Saturday at boxcars

That horse was on the lead in a dirt sprint. Any reasonably competent jockey (i.e anyone who can get a jockey's license) should be able to get a quality horse around in good fashion in a dirt sprint, especially on the lead.

Turf routes are another matter entirely, especially if you are riding a closer. You need to be able to judge the pace effectively, not get stopped once you are moving, and then be willing to squeeze through a hole that is barely as wide as the horse you are riding.

Edgar was on two live mounts on the turf today, one where he re-rode the horse who is the topic of this thread, and then the second choice in the nightcap, and he lost badly un both, actually running dead last in the nightcap. Now of course it is certain that the horse is a major factor, but i don't think he can consistently succeed on the turf against this rider colony.

NoCarolinaTony 08-31-2015 06:11 AM

RunHappy Edgar
 
I'm sure when you are a jockey in your later 50s your skills will diminish .
Not a bad ride for Edgar here. Let's also give props when they are warranted as well. We all like to bury the dead or near dead, let's give kudos once in a while too.

cakes44 08-31-2015 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by NoCarolinaTony (Post 1041716)
I'm sure when you are a jockey in your later 50s your skills will diminish .
Not a bad ride for Edgar here. Let's also give props when they are warranted as well. We all like to bury the dead or near dead, let's give kudos once in a while too.

He is 48...and also 4 years younger than Stevens.

NoCarolinaTony 08-31-2015 09:27 PM

No matter he's old for a jockey. 48/56 it's old for a jockey. Was still a good ride and worthy of kudo or two vs the getting ripped open a new one for a bad ride a week or two earlier. If it's worth the negative comments a little praise Once in a while or pat on the back can't hurt once in a while.

RHT2004 08-31-2015 11:36 PM

No one defended him before the Kings Bishop. He has thrown more then 1 horrible ride at Saratoga. He did nothing wrong in the Kings Bishop, he never got in the horses way..... That's how its supposed to be, but he didn't really do anything special. The horse ran a huge race on everyone's figures. I am confident it had nothing to do with Prado. The trainer is absolutely beautiful though, that could have had something to do with it.


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