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Left Bank 07-08-2015 03:32 PM

Cozmic One
 
For all the fanfare, once again showed nothing today. Maybe racing isn't this horse's cup of tea?

letswastemoney 07-08-2015 04:56 PM

He would fare better in a 9 to 10 furlong race where he can lay closer to the pace with his lack of speed. He also has a late developing family, as Zenyatta never even debuted until December of her 3 year old season, so maybe he can turn things around eventually.

cakes44 07-08-2015 06:08 PM

That was dreadful.

Kitan 07-08-2015 06:31 PM

Match race vs The Green Monkey please.

Alabama Stakes 07-08-2015 07:17 PM

a small case of the slows....

RHT2004 07-08-2015 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney (Post 1034360)
He would fare better in a 9 to 10 furlong race where he can lay closer to the pace with his lack of speed. He also has a late developing family, as Zenyatta never even debuted until December of her 3 year old season, so maybe he can turn things around eventually.

Jesus dude.... He might just not be that good.

letswastemoney 07-08-2015 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RHT2004 (Post 1034368)
Jesus dude.... He might just not be that good.

Probably not. I was trying to stay positive.

10 pnt move up 07-09-2015 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney (Post 1034369)
Probably not. I was trying to stay positive.

Positive and internet......:zz::confused:

Left Bank 07-09-2015 04:06 PM

I think we can also toss Havana into this group.

Merlinsky 07-09-2015 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Left Bank (Post 1034392)
I think we can also toss Havana into this group.

Into what group? The 'just not that good' group? A G1 winner (and G1 placed in the BCJ) in the same club as Cozmic One? That's a headscratcher. A look at what he did sure implies a horse with promise that had some sort of injury and was never the same again, possibly reaggravating whatever when he tried the Woody Stephens in his graded stakes comeback. Maybe his feet, he did have that quarter crack. I don't think I'd call that not good. He's certainly done more than beat 2 horses total in 2 maiden races.

Is it more that Cozmic One is slow or is it that he's a headcase? Both? I've heard of the 2nd. Not sure if this is the kind of thing that turf or gelding would help, but you'd have to think he's not justified being bred to anybody as yet. I'd be surprised if he gets it together on dirt as he is. Something's gotta give.

alysheba4 07-09-2015 05:47 PM

yeah, cozmic one is just another horse that cant run.

Left Bank 07-10-2015 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 1034395)
Into what group? The 'just not that good' group? A G1 winner (and G1 placed in the BCJ) in the same club as Cozmic One? That's a headscratcher. A look at what he did sure implies a horse with promise that had some sort of injury and was never the same again, possibly reaggravating whatever when he tried the Woody Stephens in his graded stakes comeback. Maybe his feet, he did have that quarter crack. I don't think I'd call that not good. He's certainly done more than beat 2 horses total in 2 maiden races.

Is it more that Cozmic One is slow or is it that he's a headcase? Both? I've heard of the 2nd. Not sure if this is the kind of thing that turf or gelding would help, but you'd have to think he's not justified being bred to anybody as yet. I'd be surprised if he gets it together on dirt as he is. Something's gotta give.

Those wins were a long time ago, I don't think he's the same horse.

Merlinsky 07-13-2015 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Left Bank (Post 1034460)
Those wins were a long time ago, I don't think he's the same horse.

Of course he's not, but this is apples and oranges. You can't compare not good enough (or lacking in headcase-status to show that he's good enough) vs. not sound enough. It seems like Havana's issue is the latter.


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