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eurobounce 10-16-2006 08:53 PM

Bluegrass Cat Retired
 
You know, I always cheered for this horse. Really not sure as to why but there was something about him that intrigued me. But he was a good horse that was in the shadows of Barbaro and Dini. He is going to stand at WinStar Farm for $50k. Good luck Cat.

Cajungator26 10-16-2006 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
You know, I always cheered for this horse. Really not sure as to why but there was something about him that intrigued me. But he was a good horse that was in the shadows of Barbaro and Dini. He is going to stand at WinStar Farm for $50k. Good luck Cat.

I thought they already announced this... am I losing it or what? :confused:

Coach Pants 10-16-2006 08:54 PM

Cigar was retired too. I, for one, am shocked.

Revolution 10-16-2006 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I thought they already announced this... am I losing it or what? :confused:

You aren't losing it. He got hurt at Saratoga and was retired.

randallscott35 10-16-2006 08:55 PM

Euro, he was retired in August. Did you bump your head.

eurobounce 10-16-2006 08:55 PM

It was announced after the Travers but breeding plans just finalized. I should of made a better title for the thread.

Cunningham Racing 10-16-2006 09:05 PM

You can do better for $50K IMO....he was fragile like most Storm Cats and he never won against the best....I like the horse though.....

eurobounce 10-16-2006 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
You can do better for $50K IMO....he was fragile like most Storm Cats and he never won against the best....I like the horse though.....

I dont understand all the fuss over Storm Cat and his offspring. They are fragile and they have distance limitations. And I agree, you can do much better than $50k.

sumitas 10-16-2006 10:25 PM

he was a Storm Cat that could get the distance. that made him very appealing and at times spectacular. unfortunately he never had the chance to race more.

todko 10-16-2006 10:30 PM

I always wondered what the deal was with them running front wraps on Bluegrass Cat for the Travers. First time front wraps. Not a good sign. Not like Pletcher was trying make other trainers guess in a nickel claimer or something.

When I saw the early fractions in the Travers I knew it was trouble. A healthy BC would have run better than that. Comes out of it with a fracture. Something sure doesn't add up with that picture.

Thankfully he survived it. And good for him that he's getting $50k. If his offspring are as game as he was we have something to look forward to.

pmayjr 10-17-2006 12:29 AM

50k? a lil much don't ya think?

miraja2 10-17-2006 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by pmayjr
50k? a lil much don't ya think?

Yeah, it probably is a little high for a horse that only ever won one G1 race.

But he could POTENTIALLY be a great stallion. Yes he's a Storm Cat, but examine the bottom half of his pedigree too. Look at his dam....She's A Winner.
She is by AP Indy and out of a graded stakes winning daughter of Mr. P. In addition to Bluegrass Cat she has already produced another multiple Graded stakes winner out of only 3 offspring to hit the track. That is a pretty nice pedigree.
I guess in today's breeding industry the big question is.....if you have a stallion like BC that is by Storm Cat and out of an AP Indy mare.....who are you going to breed the horse too? Are there any mares out there anymore that aren't closely related to one or both of these two horses?

Cannon Shell 10-17-2006 09:16 AM

You know stud fees are a little out of control when this horse starts at $50k

Danzig 10-17-2006 09:17 AM

i think 50k is steep. a lot of well bred horses out there. but i guess they have a lot of interest so they feel they can charge that fee.
storm cat is so popular because he backs up the hype, a lot of success over the years from him. he's not standing for 500k for nothing!

but....there are a lot of good horses out there for that price. do you go for proven, or for some storm cat magic??
as for mares to breed to--they're out there.

Danzig 10-17-2006 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
You know stud fees are a little out of control when this horse starts at $50k

i thought it was out of control when ghostzapper started for 200k!

Cannon Shell 10-17-2006 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188
i thought it was out of control when ghostzapper started for 200k!

Nothing Frank S does is surprising

paisjpq 10-17-2006 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
You know stud fees are a little out of control when this horse starts at $50k

just more fad breeding, to sell...and underperform on the track

Blue Eyes 10-17-2006 03:52 PM

[quote=todko]I always wondered what the deal was with them running front wraps on Bluegrass Cat for the Travers. First time front wraps. Not a good sign. Not like Pletcher was trying make other trainers guess in a nickel claimer or something.

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In his last work before the Travers he probably ran down up front, getting off the hind leg that was bothering him that he ended up with a broken pastern in. Too bad Pletcher didn't put 2 and 2 together. Or maybe he did but kept on pushing. Not surprised if that's the case.

oracle80 10-17-2006 04:37 PM

[quote=Blue Eyes]
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Originally Posted by todko
I always wondered what the deal was with them running front wraps on Bluegrass Cat for the Travers. First time front wraps. Not a good sign. Not like Pletcher was trying make other trainers guess in a nickel claimer or something.

QUOTE]

In his last work before the Travers he probably ran down up front, getting off the hind leg that was bothering him that he ended up with a broken pastern in. Too bad Pletcher didn't put 2 and 2 together. Or maybe he did but kept on pushing. Not surprised if that's the case.

Yeah yeah yeah, He doesn't know anything about problems or training, thats why he wins the races he does.
This is so tiresome its silly. Guys constantly lobbing grenades at someone who works hard and is successful.


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