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somerfrost 05-23-2015 03:55 PM

Ireland legalizes gay marriage
 
By a landslide vote, over 62% say yes! The times they are a changin'

Danzig 05-23-2015 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 1028378)
By a landslide vote, over 62% say yes! The times they are a changin'

Wow. Good for them.

Danzig 05-23-2015 07:44 PM

Ireland hasn't just said "Yes"... Ireland has said: "F❤️CK YEAAHHHH"

-- Aodhán Ó Ríordáin TD (@AodhanORiordain) May 23, 2015


So proud of my relatives in ireland!!

somerfrost 05-24-2015 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1028422)
Ireland hasn't just said "Yes"... Ireland has said: "F❤️CK YEAAHHHH"

-- Aodhán Ó Ríordáin TD (@AodhanORiordain) May 23, 2015


So proud of my relatives in ireland!!

Hopefully the Supremes shortly follow suit.

dellinger63 05-24-2015 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 1028436)
Hopefully the Supremes shortly follow suit.

Guarantee they will and it's too bad we can't have a referendum vote like Ireland instead of involving the lawyers and all that comes with them.

GenuineRisk 05-24-2015 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 1028441)
Guarantee they will and it's too bad we can't have a referendum vote like Ireland instead of involving the lawyers and all that comes with them.

Yeah, the referendum vote worked out really well for LGTB men and women in California.... Prop 8, anyone?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority

That said, props to Ireland's people (and to the decline of the Catholic Church's influence on the nation). Hope they can get on the women's right to bodily autonomy thing next, so no more women die due to doctors refusing to treat a miscarriage properly.

dellinger63 05-24-2015 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1028453)
. Hope they can get on the women's right to bodily autonomy thing next, so no more women die due to doctors refusing to treat a miscarriage properly.

So interesting your absolute lack of interest in the plight of women living in the Mid East, hmm what could be the difference with that situation?

Or does the right to abortion, DNC supercede the right to retain a clitorus or becoming a victim of an honor killing?

somerfrost 05-24-2015 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 1028475)
So interesting your absolute lack of interest in the plight of women living in the Mid East, hmm what could be the difference with that situation?

Or does the right to abortion, DNC supercede the right to retain a clitorus or becoming a victim of an honor killing?

Dell the topic is Ireland's vote.

dellinger63 05-24-2015 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 1028495)
Dell the topic is Ireland's vote.

Stupid me I thought it became women rights. F'k the women outside of Ireland. Lives and clittoris' be damned:zz:

Danzig 05-24-2015 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1028453)
Yeah, the referendum vote worked out really well for LGTB men and women in California.... Prop 8, anyone?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyranny_of_the_majority

That said, props to Ireland's people (and to the decline of the Catholic Church's influence on the nation). Hope they can get on the women's right to bodily autonomy thing next, so no more women die due to doctors refusing to treat a miscarriage properly.

I really wish people would pay attention in civics class.

dellinger63 05-24-2015 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1028538)
I really wish people would pay attention in civics class.

And I wish people could pay attention to the whole world instead of the squirrel that crosses the road every once in a while.

Tell us again how the Navy cook is as important as the Navy pilot. I love that story...:rolleyes:

Or even better how your son passed on a full ride to LSU in Nuclear Engineering for a stint in the Navy as a Nuclear Technician. That's a good one too!

somerfrost 05-24-2015 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 1028547)
And I wish people could pay attention to the whole world instead of the squirrel that crosses the road every once in a while.

Tell us again how the Navy cook is as important as the Navy pilot. I love that story...:rolleyes:thinking tha

Or even better how your son passed on a full ride to LSU in Nuclear Engineering for a stint in the Navy as a Nuclear Technician. That's a good one too!

My life's path has had it's share of twists and turns, my dad was in the navy in WWII and he taught me respect for the brave men and women who serve, especially those who honor a commitment to country above personal gain. Growing up in the 60's, I became active in the Civil Rights movement and that led me to the anti-war movement which I embraced even though I saw hypocrisy in privileged youth who pretended to be anti war in order to avoid the draft. James Drought's great book, "the Secret" influenced my thinking leading me to the conclusion that wars are waged by the rich and powerful using the rest of us as pawns....still when I was drafted, I took that faithful step forward and became a pawn. I saw friends die but I was lucky and came back in one piece, and much more mature. People have mistaken me for anti-military, nothing could be further from the truth...I am pro-military, just anti rich and powerful...as Dylan sang...the "Masters of War" . Bottom line, I have the greatest respect for any young person who chooses service, even over a full ride to LSU...perhaps you should rethink this one Dell!

dellinger63 05-25-2015 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 1028570)
Bottom line, I have the greatest respect for any young person who chooses service, even over a full ride to LSU...perhaps you should rethink this one Dell!

Hey if that's the reason he enlisted my sincere apologies and thanks for his service. But the way his mother told the story it was for an education in a trade (while being paid) that would reward him monetarily in the private world upon his discharge.

I then compared the lifetime benefits monetarily between a college educated Nuclear Engineer and a Nuclear Technician despite the lack of pay while attending college.

Anyway thanks to you and all including Danzig who have served (I didn't) and ultimate respect and appreciation to those who made the ultimate sacrifice and their surviving families.

bigrun 05-25-2015 01:58 PM

[quote=dellinger63;1028583]Hey if that's the reason he enlisted my sincere apologies and thanks for his service. But the way his mother told the story it was for an education in a trade (while being paid) that would reward him monetarily in the private world upon his discharge.

I then compared the lifetime benefits monetarily between a college educated Nuclear Engineer and a Nuclear Technician despite the lack of pay while attending college.

Anyway thanks to you and all including Danzig who have served (I didn't) and ultimate respect and appreciation to those who made the ultimate sacrifice and their surviving families./QUOTE]


:tro::tro:

viscount26 05-25-2015 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 1028583)
Hey if that's the reason he enlisted my sincere apologies and thanks for his service. But the way his mother told the story it was for an education in a trade (while being paid) that would reward him monetarily in the private world upon his discharge.

I then compared the lifetime benefits monetarily between a college educated Nuclear Engineer and a Nuclear Technician despite the lack of pay while attending college.

Anyway thanks to you and all including Danzig who have served (I didn't) and ultimate respect and appreciation to those who made the ultimate sacrifice and their surviving families.

You can thank me next time you see me Dell

GenuineRisk 05-26-2015 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost (Post 1028570)
My life's path has had it's share of twists and turns, my dad was in the navy in WWII and he taught me respect for the brave men and women who serve, especially those who honor a commitment to country above personal gain. Growing up in the 60's, I became active in the Civil Rights movement and that led me to the anti-war movement which I embraced even though I saw hypocrisy in privileged youth who pretended to be anti war in order to avoid the draft. James Drought's great book, "the Secret" influenced my thinking leading me to the conclusion that wars are waged by the rich and powerful using the rest of us as pawns....still when I was drafted, I took that faithful step forward and became a pawn. I saw friends die but I was lucky and came back in one piece, and much more mature. People have mistaken me for anti-military, nothing could be further from the truth...I am pro-military, just anti rich and powerful...as Dylan sang...the "Masters of War" . Bottom line, I have the greatest respect for any young person who chooses service, even over a full ride to LSU...perhaps you should rethink this one Dell!

Somer, you remind me so much of a friend of mine who died almost 13 years ago. He had been a drill sergeant in Vietnam, and when I knew him, while he still had the drill sergeant temper (lord, that man could shout when he was angry), he was by then Wiccan, very to the left, and incredibly kind to his friends. He also was of the opinion that war was a rich man's game, played with poor men as the pawns. You guys would probably have gotten along famously.

He was working in the WTC on 9/11 and suffered a heart attack that day that he never really recovered from, he died less than a year later. I still often think of him.


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