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Kasept 01-24-2015 07:10 AM

1/24: Gulfstream (6th-11th); Santa Anita (5th-10th)
 
GULFSTREAM


PRE-SCRATCHES


6th: MSW, 3yo, 7f (P6, P3, DD)

Best Value: #9 Wisecracker 10-1 2nd
Next Best: #14 Khozan 7-2 WON ($5.80)
Exotics Use: #12 Great Stuff 12-1 3rd
Super Add: #3 Camerton Hall 30-1 14th


7th: Hutcheson (G3), 3yo, 7f (P5, P3, DD)

Most Likely: #7 Barbados 9-5 WON ($3.40)
Best Value: #3 Dom the Bomb 6-1 6th
Next Best: #6 X Y Jet 9-2 2nd
Exotics Use: #2 Bridget's Big Luvy 15-1 5th


8th: Sweetest Chant (G3), 3yo-F, 1m-T/24' (P4, P3, DD)

Most Likely: #7 Consumer Credit 2-1 WON ($5.60)
Next Best: #4 Quality Rocks 3-1 2nd
Best Value: #3 Miss Temple City 4-1 3rd
Exotics Use: #8 Red Sashay 12-1 6th


9th: Holy Bull (G2), 3yo, 8.5f (P3, DD)

Most Likely: #8 Upstart 2-1 WON ($6.20)
Next Best: #1 Frosted 5-2 2nd
Exotics Use: #4 Bluegrass Singer 4-1 3rd
Best Value: #7 Frammento 12-1 6th


10th: Forward Gal (G2), 3yo-F, 7f (DD)

With all due respect to the important boy's race ahead of it, this is the best event of the day at Hallendale..

Best Value: #8 Lassofthemohocans 12-1 2nd
Next Best: #6 Enchantress 3-1 8th
Exotics Use: #3 Taylor S 10-1 3rd
Super Add: #5 Seduire 5-2 7th


11th: Kitten's Joy, 3yo, 8.5f-T/24' (Super Hi-5)

Best Value: #8 Croninthebarbarian 6-1 3rd
Next Best: #4 Dubai Sky 4-1 WON ($12.60)
Exotics Use: #7 Dr No 3-1 7th
Super Add: #11 Ode to the Hunt 15-1 8th
Hi-5 Play: #9 Chief Kitten 9-2 6th


@$75 P5 Grid:

7: 7 (A), - (B), 3-6 (C)
8: 4-7 (A), 3 (B), 5-8 (C)
9: 8 (A), 1-4 (B), 6-7 (C)
10: 6-8 (A), 3-5 (B), 4 (C)
11: 4-8 (A), 7-11 (B), 5-9 (C)

Simple (A+B): 1x3x3x4x4 = 144 x .50 = $72
Full (A/B/C): $76 $0.50 Pick-5 (1,7,8/7/8/4/4) Paid $930.65


$72 P4 Grid:

8: 4-7 (A), 3 (B), 5-8 (C)
9: 8 (A), 1-4 (B), 6-7 (C)
10: 6-8 (A), 3-5 (B), 4 (C)
11: 4-8 (A), 7-11 (B), 5-9 (C)

Simple (A+B): 3x3x4x4 = 144 x .50 = $72
Full (A/B/C): $72 (With $1 'All A's' play) $0.50 Pick-4 (7/8/4/4) Paid $709.30

All A Entries

1 $1.00 pick P4: 4,7 with 8 with 6,8 with 4,8 - $8.00

A's with One B

2 $0.50 pick P4: 5 with 8 with 6,8 with 4,8 - $2.00
3 $0.50 pick P4: 4,7 with 1,4 with 6,8 with 4,8 - $8.00
4 $0.50 pick P4: 4,7 with 8 with 3,5 with 4,8 - $4.00
5 $0.50 pick P4: 4,7 with 8 with 6,8 with 7,11 - $4.00

A's with Two B's

6 $0.50 pick P4: 5 with 1,4 with 6,8 with 4,8 - $4.00
7 $0.50 pick P4: 5 with 8 with 3,5 with 4,8 - $2.00
8 $0.50 pick P4: 5 with 8 with 6,8 with 7,11 - $2.00
9 $0.50 pick P4: 4,7 with 1,4 with 3,5 with 4,8 - $8.00
10 $0.50 pick P4: 4,7 with 1,4 with 6,8 with 7,11 - $8.00
11 $0.50 pick P4: 4,7 with 8 with 3,5 with 7,11 - $4.00

A's with One C

12 $0.50 pick P4: 3,8 with 8 with 6,8 with 4,8 - $4.00
13 $0.50 pick P4: 4,7 with 6,7 with 6,8 with 4,8 - $8.00
14 $0.50 pick P4: 4,7 with 8 with 4 with 4,8 - $2.00
15 $0.50 pick P4: 4,7 with 8 with 6,8 with 5,9 - $4.00

Total: $72.00



SANTA ANITA


PRE-SCRATCHES


5th: Cal Cup Oaks, 3yo-F, 1m-T (P6, P3, DD)

Most Likely: #5 Sheer Pleasure 5-2 4th
Next Best: #4 Heat the Rocks 2-1 2nd
Exotics Use: #6 Light One 5-2 3rd
Super Add: #7 Tribal Express 15-1 8th


6th: Cal Cup Derby, 3yo, 8.5f (P3, DD)

Most Likely: #2 Acceptance 4-5 4th
Next Best: #1 Tough Sunday 5-2 7th
Exotics Use: #7 Pulmarack 9-2 2nd
Super Add: #3 Mischief Clem 6-1 WON ($25.60)


7th: SunMill F&M Turf Sprint, F&M-4+, 6.5f-T (P4, P3, DD)

Most Likely: #14 Heat Trap 9-2 6th
Best Value: #8 Doinghardtimeagain 15-1 11th
Next Best: #7 Go West Marie 12-1 WON ($13.00)
Exotics Use: #9 Kathleen Rose 6-1 7th


8th: Cal Cup Sprint, 4+, 6f (P3, DD)

Most Likely: #2 San Onofre 4-5 2nd
Next Best: #7 Marino's Wild Cat 6-1 5th
Best Value: #4 Frensham SCR
Exotics Use: #3 Rousing Sermon 4-1 4th


9th: Cal Cup Turf Classic, 4+, 9f-T (DD)

Best Value: #9 Boozer 8-1 2nd
Next Best: #5 Big Bane Theory 5-2 4th
Exotics Use: #3 Alert Bay 5-2 WON ($7.80)
Super Add: #4 Patriot's Rule 15-1 4th


10th: MCLM, 3yo-F, 6.5f (Super Hi-5)

Most Likely: #6 She Got Away 7-2 5th
Next Best: #1 Erte 4-1 WON ($7.40)
Best Value: #9 Ju Ju Bella 8-1 4th
[b][color="Red"]Exotics Use: #11 Powerful Girl 4-1 2nd
Super/Hi-5: #5 Lady Danger 6-1 10th


<$60 P4 Grid:

7: 8-14 (A), 7-9 (B), 3-4 (C)
8: 2 (A), - (B), 3-4-7 (C)
9: 3-5-9 (A), 1-4 (B), 7-10 (C)
10: 6 (A), 1-10-11 (B), 4-5 (C)

Simple (A+B): 4x1x5x4 = 90 x .50 = $45
Full (A/B/C): $57 (With $1 'All A's' play)

All A Entries

1 $1.00 pick P4: 8,14 with 2 with 3,5,9 with 6 - $6.00

A's with One B

2 $0.50 pick P4: 7,9 with 2 with 3,5,9 with 6 - $3.00
3 $0.50 pick P4: 8,14 with 2 with 1,4 with 6 - $2.00
4 $0.50 pick P4: 8,14 with 2 with 3,5,9 with 1,10,11 - $9.00

A's with Two B's

5 $0.50 pick P4: 7,9 with 2 with 1,4 with 6 - $2.00
6 $0.50 pick P4: 7,9 with 2 with 3,5,9 with 1,10,11 - $9.00
7 $0.50 pick P4: 8,14 with 2 with 1,4 with 1,10,11 - $6.00

A's with One C

8 $0.50 pick P4: 3,4 with 2 with 3,5,9 with 6 - $3.00
9 $0.50 pick P4: 8,14 with 3,4,7 with 3,5,9 with 6 - $9.00
10 $0.50 pick P4: 8,14 with 2 with 7,10 with 6 - $2.00
11 $0.50 pick P4: 8,14 with 2 with 3,5,9 with 4,5 - $6.00

Total: $54.00


Good luck!
Steve

Kasept 01-24-2015 10:02 AM

GP SCR/CHG'S

kingsize14u 01-24-2015 06:57 PM

I must be missing the boat. Please explain how the full (ABC) pick 5 ticket cost only $76. I come up with 3x5x5x5x6. Where am I going wrong? Thanks in advance.

dellinger63 01-24-2015 07:20 PM

Fantastic hit(s)

Rudeboyelvis 01-24-2015 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingsize14u (Post 1013758)
I must be missing the boat. Please explain how the full (ABC) pick 5 ticket cost only $76. I come up with 3x5x5x5x6. Where am I going wrong? Thanks in advance.


That would be an all "A" ticket.

To play an ABC ticket, You assign your "best shots" an A designation, your 2nd tier possibles a B designation, and your logical long shots a C designation.

So, for example in this particular P5 sequence, you then parse your plays so that all A's, three A's and two B's, or four A's and one C's gets you home.

It is based on Steve Christ's Exotic wagering scheme.

My unsolicited opinion - I've hit a bunch of P5/P6's and I personally find it complete hokum. That's not to say that it doesn't work, but it has never worked for me.

I find it best to have a strong opinion and go with your gut, and if you can't cover the bet with your gut, play shorter horizontals. Nothing at all wrong with begging off a P5 when you feel you need to go 4 deep in the first leg, and playing the P4 for example.

Rudeboyelvis 01-24-2015 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 1013760)
Fantastic hit(s)

:tro::tro::$::$: Way to go Steve!

Kasept 01-25-2015 12:21 AM

Gains more coverage that simple 'caveman' tickets..

http://www.amazon.com/Exotic-Betting.../dp/1932910921

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingsize14u (Post 1013758)
I must be missing the boat. Please explain how the full (ABC) pick 5 ticket cost only $76. I come up with 3x5x5x5x6. Where am I going wrong? Thanks in advance.

All A Entries

1 $0.50 pick P5: 7 with 4,7 with 8 with 6,8 with 4,8 - $4.00 $0.50 Pick-5 (1,7,8/7/8/4/4) Paid $8.30 (4OF5)

A's with One B

2 $0.50 pick P5: 7 with 3 with 8 with 6,8 with 4,8 - $2.00
3 $0.50 pick P5: 7 with 4,7 with 1,4 with 6,8 with 4,8 - $8.00
4 $0.50 pick P5: 7 with 4,7 with 8 with 3,5 with 4,8 - $4.00 $0.50 Pick-5 (1,7,8/7/8/4/4) Paid $8.30 (4OF5)
5 $0.50 pick P5: 7 with 4,7 with 8 with 6,8 with 7,11 - $4.00

A's with Two B's

6 $0.50 pick P5: 7 with 3 with 1,4 with 6,8 with 4,8 - $4.00
7 $0.50 pick P5: 7 with 3 with 8 with 3,5 with 4,8 - $2.00
8 $0.50 pick P5: 7 with 3 with 8 with 6,8 with 7,11 - $2.00
9 $0.50 pick P5: 7 with 4,7 with 1,4 with 3,5 with 4,8 - $8.00
10 $0.50 pick P5: 7 with 4,7 with 1,4 with 6,8 with 7,11 - $8.00
11 $0.50 pick P5: 7 with 4,7 with 8 with 3,5 with 7,11 - $4.00

A's with One C

12 $0.50 pick P5: 3,6 with 4,7 with 8 with 6,8 with 4,8 - $8.00
13 $0.50 pick P5: 7 with 5,8 with 8 with 6,8 with 4,8 - $4.00
14 $0.50 pick P5: 7 with 4,7 with 6,7 with 6,8 with 4,8 - $8.00
15 $0.50 pick P5: 7 with 4,7 with 8 with 4 with 4,8 - $2.00 $0.50 Pick-5 (1,7,8/7/8/4/4) Paid $930.65
16 $0.50 pick P5: 7 with 4,7 with 8 with 6,8 with 5,9 - $4.00

Total: $76.00

Kasept 01-25-2015 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arizonadave (Post 1013755)
Nice P4 at Gulfstream,Steve. tad over $700
and the p5,very nice

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1013762)
:tro::tro::$::$: Way to go Steve!

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 1013760)
Fantastic hit(s)

Dave, Dan, Dell..

Thanks.. Long, intense day here. Hope everyone did well and is enjoying the NHC coverage.

Kitan 01-25-2015 01:11 AM

Great work Steve!


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