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Rudeboyelvis 12-11-2014 11:28 AM

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...
 
While the MSM is overrun diffusing the latest smokescreen (OMG teh CIA did MEAN THINGS TOO BAD GUYZ!!!)....You know, when the pull Dick Cheney out of mothballs, they must REALLY need to divert your attention...

Take a look at what they (the Media) are purposely ignoring - Specifically what Congress is up to right before they walk out the door for the holidays:


http://investmentwatchblog.com/h-r-4...teroid-levels/

http://amash.house.gov/

In order to keep the government from shutting down, they've added a provision into section 309 of H.R. 4681 that essentially removes any and all restrictions on monitoring US citizens.

>>>Sec. 309 of the new Intelligence Authorization Act permits the U.S. government to acquire, retain, and disseminate nonpublic telephone or electronic communications to or from a U.S. person<<<

Congrats! You officially have zero privacy! And now it's all nice and legal-like!!

Not that anyone has anything to hid anyway, of course.

Thanks to Justin Amash (R.- MI) and the other 99 true American Patriots who voted against this.

Danzig 12-11-2014 12:29 PM

absolutely awful

and then there's the banking regulation that was changed....

DODD-FRANK:

Democrats agreed to make some of the biggest changes yet to the 2010 financial regulatory reforms. In a deal sought by Republicans, the bill would reverse Dodd-Frank requirements that banks "push out" some of derivatives trading into separate entities not backed by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporations. Ever since being enacted, banks have been pushing to reverse the change. Now, the rules would go back to the way they used to be. But in exchange, Democrats say they secured more money for the enforcement budgets at the Commodity Futures Trading Commission and the Securities and Exchange Commission.

Danzig 12-11-2014 12:32 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...-dont-have-to/


CAMPAIGN FINANCE:

The bill would dramatically expand the amount of money that wealthy political donors could inject into the national parties, drastically undercutting the 2002 landmark McCain-Feingold campaign finance overhaul. Bottom line: A donor who gave the maximum $32,400 this year to the Democratic National Committee or Republican National Committee would be able to donate another $291,600 on top of that to the party’s additional arms -- a total of $324,000, ten times the current limit. Read more on this here.

dellinger63 12-11-2014 01:04 PM

Wanted to determine who was behind the amendment to the original bill and now I can't breath!

And shame on you Paul Ryan Rep. WI for voting yea

Quote:

The Senate passed the Intelligence authorization bill the same day a report came out on the CIA’s use of torture.

H.R. 4681, the Intelligence Authorization Act, funds intelligence agency programs for 2014 and 2015.

Because of the classified nature of intelligence programs, details on the appropriations bill are limited. Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates that the two-year measure would cost roughly $1 billion.

The Senate passed the measure by voice-vote on the same day the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report saying the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) tortured detainees and lied to Congress and the public about its activities.

The House passed H.R. 4681 on a 345-59 vote in May, but because the Senate added an amendment from Senate Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) the measure will go back to the House for further action.
http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-actio...priations-bill

Surely Obama will veto it and send it back, um to Feinstein. :rolleyes:

And how ironically noble of her to scold the CIA for human rights violations against terrorists, none U.S. citizens, on the same day she enacted an amendment that violates the constitutional rights of virtually every U.S. citizen using an electronic communications device.

OldDog 12-11-2014 02:12 PM

But, but . . .

TORTURE!

Rudeboyelvis 12-11-2014 02:41 PM

Pages 20 - 24 if interested in seeing this

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-1...3hr4681eas.pdf

Danzig 12-11-2014 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1008648)
But, but . . .

TORTURE!

well, we kinda did sign a treaty against that.

but to have anyone calling out others, for stuff they knew about as well...and then when you've got pols turning this into yet another political football, and then arguing on one hand that metadata collection of u.s. citizens is ok, but other stuff isn't (looking at you diane feinstein), well....

i'm sick of the whole g**damned group. they all try to point fingers at other for doing stuff they do as well. and then we all sit here and watch everything go to hell in a handbasket, while they all do nothing, and blame each other for nothing going right, and everything going wrong, and saying 'he did this' when he knew full well it was going on, too. and signed off on it, or voted on it, to boot. they run for office saying they're going to fix this, repeal that, and none of them do a damned thing except pocket money and complain.

Danzig 12-11-2014 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1008649)
Pages 20 - 24 if interested in seeing this

http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-1...3hr4681eas.pdf

The term ‘‘congressional intelligence commit5
tees’’ means—


there's joke material for you.


back to the original post tho...i went to cnn dot com, msnbc, and yahoo politics front pages. nothing on this. yahoo has an article that discusses things in the spending bill, but this isn't one of the things mentioned. same at ny times, wash. post. huffpo has 5 big things article...not there either.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-s...b_6307852.html

i think i'll take the dog for a walk.

jms62 12-11-2014 03:53 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...774-Pages-Long

Rudeboyelvis 12-11-2014 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1008651)
The term ‘‘congressional intelligence commit5
tees’’ means—


there's joke material for you.


back to the original post tho...i went to cnn dot com, msnbc, and yahoo politics front pages. nothing on this. yahoo has an article that discusses things in the spending bill, but this isn't one of the things mentioned. same at ny times, wash. post. huffpo has 5 big things article...not there either.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-s...b_6307852.html

i think i'll take the dog for a walk.

I particularly love the repetitive use of the phrase "*nonpublic* communications."

Maybe because *nonpublic* is sooo much less....I dunno..... personal?.. than just sayin' "*private* communications?" :rolleyes:

Danzig 12-11-2014 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1008668)
I particularly love the repetitive use of the phrase "*nonpublic* communications."

Maybe because *nonpublic* is sooo much less....I dunno..... personal?.. than just sayin' "*private* communications?" :rolleyes:

it's like saying 'revenue enhancement' instead of taxes. pol-speak, a whole different language.

Rudeboyelvis 01-06-2015 01:03 PM

Justin Amash to Boehner: Buh Bye

http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapi...des_to_vo.html


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