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Kasept 10-08-2014 07:56 PM

New Daily Double links New York, Santa Anita
 
New daily double links New York, Santa Anita races
By David Grening

http://www.drf.com/news/new-daily-do...ta-anita-races

A new daily double wager linking the last race at a New York Racing Association track and a selected race at Santa Anita will debut Thursday, according to a press release issued by Santa Anita on Wednesday.

The wager, which requires a $2 minimum bet, will be called the “Belmont/Santa Anita Cross-Country Double.” The wager will be offered Thursdays through Sundays through Nov. 2, the final day of the Santa Anita meet. It will include three days of racing at Aqueduct – Oct. 29, 30, and Nov. 2 – but will not be offered on either of the two Breeders’ Cup cards – Oct. 31 and Nov. 1 – which are hosted by Santa Anita.

There is no minimum guaranteed pool for the wager, and the takeout rate will be 20 percent, the rate of a daily double wager in California.

On days when NYRA conducts a nine-race card, the wager will link to the fourth race at Santa Anita, according to a NYRA official. On days when NYRA conducts 10 or 11 races, it will link to the fifth race at Santa Anita.

Those who want to play should ask mutuel tellers for the Cross-Country Daily Double. A CCDD icon is expected to be available to online players.

“We’re excited to be able to offer this new wager in conjunction with NYRA,” Tom Ludt, president of Santa Anita Park, said in the release. “We’re confident this bet will feature large fields and offer our players good value on a consistent basis. We think this cross-country daily double will generate significant interest around the country and help create additional exposure for both of our racing programs.”

Said David O’Rourke, NYRA’s vice president of corporate development: “Our new partnership with Santa Anita and the launch of the new, cross-country double provides exciting opportunities for our horseplayers while adding additional continuity between tracks from coast to coast.”

The wager is similar to what NYRA did with Penn National last year on Thursdays with a pick four wager linking the final two races of Belmont’s card with the first two races of that Penn National card. That wager had a 50-cent minimum wager with a 15 percent takeout.

RockHardTen1985 10-08-2014 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 1001330)
New daily double links New York, Santa Anita races
By David Grening

A new daily double wager linking the last race at a New York Racing Association track and a selected race at Santa Anita will debut Thursday, according to a press release issued by Santa Anita on Wednesday.

The wager, which requires a $2 minimum bet, will be called the “Belmont/Santa Anita Cross-Country Double.” The wager will be offered Thursdays through Sundays through Nov. 2, the final day of the Santa Anita meet. It will include three days of racing at Aqueduct – Oct. 29, 30, and Nov. 2 – but will not be offered on either of the two Breeders’ Cup cards – Oct. 31 and Nov. 1 – which are hosted by Santa Anita.

There is no minimum guaranteed pool for the wager, and the takeout rate will be 20 percent, the rate of a daily double wager in California.

On days when NYRA conducts a nine-race card, the wager will link to the fourth race at Santa Anita, according to a NYRA official. On days when NYRA conducts 10 or 11 races, it will link to the fifth race at Santa Anita.

Those who want to play should ask mutuel tellers for the Cross-Country Daily Double. A CCDD icon is expected to be available to online players.

“We’re excited to be able to offer this new wager in conjunction with NYRA,” Tom Ludt, president of Santa Anita Park, said in the release. “We’re confident this bet will feature large fields and offer our players good value on a consistent basis. We think this cross-country daily double will generate significant interest around the country and help create additional exposure for both of our racing programs.”

Said David O’Rourke, NYRA’s vice president of corporate development: “Our new partnership with Santa Anita and the launch of the new, cross-country double provides exciting opportunities for our horseplayers while adding additional continuity between tracks from coast to coast.”

The wager is similar to what NYRA did with Penn National last year on Thursdays with a pick four wager linking the final two races of Belmont’s card with the first two races of that Penn National card. That wager had a 50-cent minimum wager with a 15 percent takeout.

Sexy idea

tanner12oz 10-09-2014 03:21 AM

Great idea now bring back the magna 5 !

jms62 10-09-2014 06:09 AM

I think they would get more traction linking the feature race at both tracks. Call it the cross country Double Feature. This could even act to draw more interest in east coast players to get involved in the Santa Anita card waiting for the second half of their double. I probably wont get involved in its current format since the last race at many tracks is often an impoosible to decipher low level scrum involving a calvary of horses. Just my opinion but I laud them for trying something.

Kasept 10-09-2014 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1001337)
I think they would get more traction linking the feature race at both tracks. Call it the cross country Double Feature. This could even act to draw more interest in east coast players to get involved in the Santa Anita card waiting for the second half of their double. I probably wont get involved in its current format since the last race at many tracks is often an impoosible to decipher low level scrum involving a calvary of horses. Just my opinion but I laud them for trying something.

Linking features means 4:27p ET first leg with 7:43pm ET second leg. This hookup will go at 9th-4:45pm ET and 4th-5:35pm ET weekdays; 10/11th-5:30/6:00pm ET and 5th-6:10pm ET weekends.

The last race at Belmont this fall hasn't been low level at all. The lowest level has been NY-MCLM/$40k followed by $25k-$40k CLM/N2L (or N3L's), NY-ALW's and 2yo Open or NY MSW's. They've been almost completely formful too, with 7 victorious favorites and only 3 winners of $20 or more in 23 races. Win mutual in the nightcap this fall (as a glance) has been about $11.00..

FATPIANO 10-09-2014 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tanner12oz (Post 1001334)
Great idea now bring back the magna 5 !

lol, yeah bring it back , I hit it the day Ice box won the Fl Derby, think I collected around 10-13,000 for a $28.00 bet , lol

RockHardTen1985 10-10-2014 03:06 PM

I played it today because I like the two races.
I played a $10 double

11,12 with 1,7

joeydb 10-10-2014 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tanner12oz (Post 1001334)
Great idea now bring back the magna 5 !

Ditto! My best single score ever was on that bet.

Pants II 10-10-2014 04:04 PM

20% takeout...like they're doing us a favor.

"Scott...you just don't get it, do ya?"

my miss storm cat 10-14-2014 04:01 PM

Will the races go off at the exact same moment or does that only work with stakes races?

Benny 10-15-2014 11:20 AM

Crist take on CCDD
 
A no brainer, as in whoever came up with this idea is lacking a few brain cells, A high takeout low payout bet is the antithesis of what is wanted and needed. I like SC's take on the other p4 p6 bets where he last race of the sequence is garbage, with maidens etc. but he says it much better than I.

" Rather than trying to promote a high-takeout, low-return bet, tracks should be paying more attention to the way they are arranging their races for the existing multirace wagers that people actually like and play. Southern California has long offered a chaotic and baffling maiden claimer, chock-full with first-time starters, as the last race of the day. It’s a cynical and customer-unfriendly attempt to withhold relevant information (i.e. win-pool odds on first-time starters) from customers playing pick threes, pick fours, and pick sixes in the blind.

Now, sadly, the practice has gone cross-country, with New York frequently carding firster-filled races as its finale. Even Keeneland, which usually takes the high road, ruined the late multirace bets on its otherwise-stellar opening Saturday card last week by following five stakes with a last-race maiden event that had nine first-time starters.

If racing wants to give customers what they want, which is a pretty good way to retain their patronage, it would offer cheap bets at lower takeouts with a chance for a big payoff, with the races thoughtfully arranged so that bettors aren’t playing roulette. They have gotten a lot more sophisticated than they were in the bygone days, when the daily double was the most exciting wager on the card."

http://www.drf.com/news/crist-player...t-coast-double

Kitan 10-15-2014 11:22 PM

To each their own. I've always enjoyed maiden races and in fact generally prefer them to most other conditions. Never going to be able to please everyone.

Benny 10-16-2014 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kitan (Post 1002290)
To each their own. I've always enjoyed maiden races and in fact generally prefer them to most other conditions. Never going to be able to please everyone.

I like Maiden races as well, but in their place,not as last race MCL in p4/5 where it is blind which is his point, its more buying the race than handicapping.

" maiden claimer, chock-full with first-time starters, as the last race of the day. It’s a cynical and customer-unfriendly attempt to withhold relevant information (i.e. win-pool odds on first-time starters) from customers playing pick threes, pick fours, and pick sixes in the blind.

Now, sadly, the practice has gone cross-country, with New York frequently carding firster-filled races as its finale. Even Keeneland, which usually takes the high road, ruined the late multirace bets on its otherwise-stellar opening Saturday card last week by following five stakes with a last-race maiden event that had nine first-time starter


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