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pmayjr 10-08-2006 09:35 PM

What do you guys deem a longshot?
 
At what odds, in your guys' mind, is a horse a longshot?

I heard at the track the other night- "I just hit a nice 9/2 longshot"

I didn't say anything, but I was like "please..."

For me, a longshot would probably be 10-1.

I know there's different circumstances, like depending on the size of the field. If it's a big field, the odds will be stretched. But if it's a 5-horse Cali field, maybe a shorter price could be consdiered that. Another circumstance might be an overwhelming favorite taking all the odds (like Barbaro in the Preakness).

But it seemed like that guy thought that if your horse wasn't the favorite, he was a longshot... so I'm wondering what you guys deem a "longshot"?

eurobounce 10-08-2006 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmayjr
At what odds, in your guys' mind, is a horse a longshot?

I heard at the track the other night- "I just hit a nice 9/2 longshot"

I didn't say anything, but I was like "please..."

For me, a longshot would probably be 10-1.

I know there's different circumstances, like depending on the size of the field. If it's a big field, the odds will be stretched. But if it's a 5-horse Cali field, maybe a shorter price could be consdiered that. Another circumstance might be an overwhelming favorite taking all the odds (like Barbaro in the Preakness).

But it seemed like that guy thought that if your horse wasn't the favorite, he was a longshot... so I'm wondering what you guys deem a "longshot"?

To me it is 7-1 are greater.

disappearingdan_akaplaya 10-08-2006 09:38 PM

9-2 huh? was he on rocks? well either hes new to the game or hes 1 those you see yelling for the chalk everyrace, if so yeah 9-2 was huge for him LOL

pmayjr 10-08-2006 09:44 PM

Dan... I'm mean playafromthechi... I mean fairweather cubs or Chi-Sox fan (woseever better at the time lol)- what odds do you deem it?

pmayjr 10-08-2006 09:45 PM

Oh ****! Disappearing Dan is your horse. I forogt, you even ran him at the CBY last summer. My fault for clalin you your horse lol

disappearingdan_akaplaya 10-08-2006 09:48 PM

lol im never a fair weather fan period first of all, and PLEASE dont ever mention me having to do anything with liking the cubs.......NEVER! nope didnt run dan@cby this year, last place he ran was indiana downs...was@canterbury for the CC this year tho!longshot hmmmmmm well i guess 15-1 or better, 8-1 would be a nice price on a horse

disappearingdan_akaplaya 10-08-2006 09:49 PM

by the way PM CC weekend was way too hot there in shakopee this year, you minnesotans are supposed to have cooler weather

pgardn 10-08-2006 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmayjr
At what odds, in your guys' mind, is a horse a longshot?

I heard at the track the other night- "I just hit a nice 9/2 longshot"

I didn't say anything, but I was like "please..."

For me, a longshot would probably be 10-1.

I know there's different circumstances, like depending on the size of the field. If it's a big field, the odds will be stretched. But if it's a 5-horse Cali field, maybe a shorter price could be consdiered that. Another circumstance might be an overwhelming favorite taking all the odds (like Barbaro in the Preakness).

But it seemed like that guy thought that if your horse wasn't the favorite, he was a longshot... so I'm wondering what you guys deem a "longshot"?

Double digits. So 10-1 or above. 5-1 is very nice though.

I rarely go lower than 7-2 though. Missed on a 13-1 last night by a head but I was happy. It was a good bet. Started playing a lot of pik 3's for fun to get some clue as how people bet these things so I can get in the right pool in the rolling 3's. Got some ideas. But nothing very concrete.

pmayjr 10-08-2006 09:49 PM

No for real... didn't you run him at Canterbury Summer of '05? You were bitchin about Anne Von Rosen giving your horse a rotten ride. But then you had Uske the second time and got better results? I swear that was you...

disappearingdan_akaplaya 10-08-2006 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmayjr
No for real... didn't you run him at Canterbury Summer of '05? You were bitchin about Anne Von Rosen giving your horse a rotten ride. But then you had Uske the second time and got better results? I swear that was you...


yes 05 i ran him there 3 times but not this year, and nope didnt have anne von rosen on the first time it was joanne black(wasnt my choice), and yes shannon rode him the final 2 times there. no success there really but atleast shannon tried on him

Thunder Gulch 10-09-2006 09:45 AM

It depends on both the odds and the pecking order of the betting. The third choice at 6-1 in a 14 horse field isn't a longshot, but the 4th choice in a 5 horse field may be considered that.

ceejay 10-09-2006 10:15 AM

> the size of the field. In a 4 horse field 9/2 is a longshot. In the Derby it takes 20-1....

dellinger63 10-09-2006 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmayjr
At what odds, in your guys' mind, is a horse a longshot?

I heard at the track the other night- "I just hit a nice 9/2 longshot"

I didn't say anything, but I was like "please..."

For me, a longshot would probably be 10-1.

I know there's different circumstances, like depending on the size of the field. If it's a big field, the odds will be stretched. But if it's a 5-horse Cali field, maybe a shorter price could be consdiered that. Another circumstance might be an overwhelming favorite taking all the odds (like Barbaro in the Preakness).

But it seemed like that guy thought that if your horse wasn't the favorite, he was a longshot... so I'm wondering what you guys deem a "longshot"?

Depends to me on the size of the field. I'd agree with the 10-1 number but in a 3 hrse race 9-2 may be a longy. The things I heard yelled at Belmont Saturday were funny and sometimes odd but I guess everyone is entitled to an opinion even if they are wrong.

2MinsToPost 10-09-2006 10:43 AM

for me double digit odds

Cannon Shell 10-09-2006 11:17 AM

I deem it a longshot for me to cash a ticket lately:mad:

Cajungator26 10-09-2006 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I deem it a longshot for me to cash a ticket lately:mad:

Me too, me too... :(


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