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Danzig 12-12-2013 01:54 PM

outrageous sentence!
 
http://news.msn.com/videos/?ap=True&...3-4af41dbfaa10

teen kills four, injures two others.
his defense team argued that he didn't know better, because he was spoiled by his parents.
watch the video to see how the fine state of texas decided to teach him that actions have consequences.

i really think sentencing should be done by a group of people who are only given the facts of the case, but never see the person being sentenced, don't know what they're worth, who they are, where they're from. you'd probably get more fair, sensible sentencing with no bias.

Kasept 12-12-2013 02:42 PM

That case being rightly juxtaposed with that of the Virginia 15yo who robbed a party at gunpoint with 2 others and received what amounts to a life sentence: http://hamptonroads.com/blount

hi_im_god 12-12-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 956857)
http://news.msn.com/videos/?ap=True&...3-4af41dbfaa10

teen kills four, injures two others.
his defense team argued that he didn't know better, because he was spoiled by his parents.
watch the video to see how the fine state of texas decided to teach him that actions have consequences.

i really think sentencing should be done by a group of people who are only given the facts of the case, but never see the person being sentenced, don't know what they're worth, who they are, where they're from. you'd probably get more fair, sensible sentencing with no bias.

cnbc reported that lawyers have labeled this the "affluenza defense".

bigrun 12-12-2013 03:49 PM

Oops, posted on this in the jerk thread...shoulda read this first:o

Danzig 12-12-2013 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 956864)
cnbc reported that lawyers have labeled this the "affluenza defense".

yeah, i saw that. at least when outrages are committed in our judicial system, we can count on witticisms.

Danzig 12-12-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 956861)
That case being rightly juxtaposed with that of the Virginia 15yo who robbed a party at gunpoint with 2 others and received what amounts to a life sentence: http://hamptonroads.com/blount

or when zimmerman walked, and another lady got 20 years for just firing a gun, which she said she did to try to get her abusive husband away from her.

i really think we should have sentencing done separately, with only facts of the case. no idea of sex of the perpetrator, and certainly not race. the sentencing disparities are beyond ridiculous. justice must be colorblind, not just blind.

GenuineRisk 12-12-2013 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 956871)
the sentencing disparities are beyond ridiculous. justice must be colorblind, not just blind.

Highly recommend this book.


Danzig 12-12-2013 07:12 PM

thanks for the heads up. need to get some books in for march anyway!

GenuineRisk 12-13-2013 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 956876)
thanks for the heads up. need to get some books in for march anyway!

It will make you viscerally angry about the War on Drugs and how it's been used to confiscate the personal property of innocent people.

Danzig 12-13-2013 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 956905)
It will make you viscerally angry about the War on Drugs and how it's been used to confiscate the personal property of innocent people.

which reminds me of the story the other day, where dallas-ft worth did a drug 'raid'. no drugs found, but the guys brand new pair of air jordans came up missing (found at dfw cops house) and half his cash is gone. they claimed the search turned up 1k, he says he had over 2k. now, the cops a thief-so does he get investigated about the money?

ddthetide 12-13-2013 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 956857)
http://news.msn.com/videos/?ap=True&...3-4af41dbfaa10

teen kills four, injures two others.
his defense team argued that he didn't know better, because he was spoiled by his parents.
watch the video to see how the fine state of texas decided to teach him that actions have consequences.

i really think sentencing should be done by a group of people who are only given the facts of the case, but never see the person being sentenced, don't know what they're worth, who they are, where they're from. you'd probably get more fair, sensible sentencing with no bias.

Very similar case ended this summer on the eastern shore of Md. the Md case daddy was a "wealthy attorney".

bigrun 12-13-2013 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 956876)
thanks for the heads up. need to get some books in for march anyway!

dan, you might take a look at this one..‘The Unwinding,’ by George Packer.
Packer was a guest on Colbert last nite..book about the struggling masses.

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Packer is a staff writer for The New Yorker who produced some of the finest journalism about the Iraq war (including an outstanding book called “The Assassin’s Gate”).
DAVID BROOKS review below link..he had some issues with it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/09/bo...anted=all&_r=0

Also catch last nite's Stewart show, continues his Fox 'war on christmas' bit:D

Danzig 12-14-2013 09:32 AM

yeah, both stewart and colbert did something about this fictional 'war'.

i saw the whole clip of that 'discussion' by kelly and her three guests. the one lady said no way a penguin could be santa because it couldnt possibly carry all those gifts.....uh, lady, who the bloody hell could? theyre arguing about a fictional character, it was hilarious

bigrun 12-14-2013 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 957012)
yeah, both stewart and colbert did something about this fictional 'war'.

i saw the whole clip of that 'discussion' by kelly and her three guests. the one lady said no way a penguin could be santa because it couldnt possibly carry all those gifts.....uh, lady, who the bloody hell could? theyre arguing about a fictional character, it was hilarious


Yeah, right;)

Megyn Kelly Says Her 'White Santa' Critics Are Race-Baiting


http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=843604

Danzig 12-14-2013 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 957035)
Yeah, right;)

Megyn Kelly Says Her 'White Santa' Critics Are Race-Baiting


http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=843604


i'd say stupid-baiting.

i thought the woman who wrote the slate article made a valid point. santa should be for everyone.

as for megyn saying santa, and jesus, are white being 'tongue in cheek'....yeah, bullsh!t, megyn

bigrun 12-14-2013 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 957104)
i'd say stupid-baiting.

i thought the woman who wrote the slate article made a valid point. santa should be for everyone.

as for megyn saying santa, and jesus, are white being 'tongue in cheek'....yeah, bullsh!t, megyn

Yeah, like Colbert said 'next thing she'll try to tell us is Jesus was a Jew':D

Danzig 12-14-2013 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 957107)
Yeah, like Colbert said 'next thing she'll try to tell us is Jesus was a Jew':D

it always amazes when people are shocked when you tell them that. they say, hey, it's historical fact he lived...then, why don't you know he was jewish?

dellinger63 12-18-2013 08:53 AM

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In October, Pruitt was sentenced to 12 months supervision for her role in a stabbing incident at a Southwest Side Chuck E. Cheese.

Lucafo said Pruitt had used a box cutter in that incident to stab the victim in the right cheek, left jaw and right elbow. The victim needed 20 stitches.
Less than two months later, last Sunday to be exact this same woman killed her ex-boyfriend, plunging a knife into his chest.

One thing is known for sure. Had this maniac gotten prison time, even three months, Mr. Holloway would be alive and two kids would still have their father.

http://homicides.suntimes.com/2013/1...hlin-holloway/

dellinger63 12-18-2013 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 957122)
it always amazes when people are shocked when you tell them that. they say, hey, it's historical fact he lived...then, why don't you know he was jewish?

It amazes me you know 'people' who are shocked of the fact Jesus is Jewish. I think I was let in on the secret when I was a toddler.


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