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Danzig 09-26-2013 04:13 PM

buckling bridge
 
http://news.msn.com/day-in-photos-bu...ridge-and-more


we've been reminded quite a bit about infrastructure, this is a perfect example of what we're going to be dealing with.

TheSpyder 09-26-2013 05:33 PM

You're not kidding...try this one on for size...

There are five times the distance of underground pipes for water and sewage than there are roads....and they are all slowly falling apart.

Atlanta has a 40 year plan for rehabilitate their system.

Sewage back ups and water pipe bursting are common everywhere.

Stay tuned...

Danzig 09-26-2013 06:01 PM

yep, all our focus is elsewhere. currently, one in nine bridges is deficient.
that's just bridges, there's far more, like you mentioned, to worry about.

geeker2 09-26-2013 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder (Post 946813)
You're not kidding...try this one on for size...

There are five times the distance of underground pipes for water and sewage than there are roads....and they are all slowly falling apart.

Atlanta has a 40 year plan for rehabilitate their system.

Sewage back ups and water pipe bursting are common everywhere.

Stay tuned...

Man and somedays I just worry whether my deodorant is working or not !

dellinger63 09-27-2013 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 946799)
http://news.msn.com/day-in-photos-bu...ridge-and-more


we've been reminded quite a bit about infrastructure, this is a perfect example of what we're going to be dealing with.

This bridge is relatively new (1980) and the sag was caused by a concrete pier settling. It received a satisfactory to good inspection result last year.

Not sure this is quite the 'perfect' example of the point trying to be made.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/...101/309250360/

jms62 09-27-2013 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 946856)
This bridge is relatively new (1980) and the sag was caused by a concrete pier settling. It received a satisfactory to good inspection result last year.

Not sure this is quite the 'perfect' example of the point trying to be made.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/...101/309250360/

Does it matter that the bridge is only 33 years old or that the inspectors missed it? Her point was that we have a crumbling infrastructure that we don't spend on yet piss money away on taking care of special interests. Her point was spot on with me.

randallscott35 09-27-2013 09:22 AM

I blame Farve.

dellinger63 09-27-2013 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 946859)
Does it matter that the bridge is only 33 years old or that the inspectors missed it? Her point was that we have a crumbling infrastructure that we don't spend on yet piss money away on taking care of special interests. Her point was spot on with me.

You missed the point that this particular bridge is not crumbling. But why let facts get in the way?

jms62 09-27-2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 946865)
You missed the point that this particular bridge is not crumbling. But why let facts get in the way?

The ****ing thing is CLOSED and poses a danger because of a buckling support beam. But I guess since the article didn't mention crumbling in your mind you are right. But why let reality of the situation get in the way when there you have an out with semantics. :zz:

Danzig 09-27-2013 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 946870)
The ****ing thing is CLOSED and poses a danger because of a buckling support beam. But I guess since the article didn't mention crumbling in your mind you are right. But why let reality of the situation get in the way when there you have an out with semantics. :zz:

http://gizmodo.com/does-this-bucklin...tru-1403403766


the article references an ap article, linked here:

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ap-im...-and-rundown-5


one issue seems to be the increased capacity of our highways and bridges, and the weight carried as well. these bridges were built decades ago, with far fewer vehicles on the road. many interstates are congested now, still with only two lanes of traffic. these bridges simply weren't engineered for the amount of use they are seeing.
back when they introduced the last stimulus, i said that the money should go into highways and bridges. that way, jobs would be there, money being spent by the employees, and infrastructure would be taken care of-wins all around. it would have been money well spent.

and, take note:

Congressional interest in fixing bridges rose after the I-35W collapse in Minneapolis, but efforts to add billions of federal dollars specifically for repair and replacement of deteriorating bridges foundered. A sweeping transportation law enacted last year eliminated a dedicated bridge fund that had been around for more than three decades. State transportation officials had complained the fund's requirements were too restrictive. Now, bridge repairs or replacements must compete with other types of highway projects for federal aid.

dellinger63 09-27-2013 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 946870)
The ****ing thing is CLOSED and poses a danger because of a buckling support beam. But I guess since the article didn't mention crumbling in your mind you are right. But why let reality of the situation get in the way when there you have an out with semantics. :zz:

Did you read the article? A pier, (a concrete support piling) settled on the bottom of a river. The piling and that section of bridge will be replaced. I would think if the bridge were crumbling the entire thing would be rebuilt.

Reminds me of when Riot tried to make the same point regarding a crumbling bridge in I think Louisville that was hit by a barge.

jms62 09-27-2013 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 946873)
Did you read the article? A pier, (a concrete support piling) settled on the bottom of a river. The piling and that section of bridge will be replaced. I would think if the bridge were crumbling the entire thing would be rebuilt.

Reminds me of when Riot tried to make the same point regarding a crumbling bridge in I think Louisville that was hit by a barge.

It's easy. Zig is right and you are wrong. Accept it and let's take a shot at the Pick 5 today. Good Luck this weekend.

dellinger63 09-27-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 946874)
It's easy. Zig is right and you are wrong. Accept it and let's take a shot at the Pick 5 today. Good Luck this weekend.

Saving my bullets for tomorrow's amazing Belmont card. Can't wait to see Graydar. GL Today and tomorrow.

And here's an example of a crumbling bridge in today's paper. It's also a 100 years old.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,1876836.story

bigrun 09-27-2013 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 946873)
Did you read the article? A pier, (a concrete support piling) settled on the bottom of a river. The piling and that section of bridge will be replaced. I would think if the bridge were crumbling the entire thing would be rebuilt.

Reminds me of when Riot tried to make the same point regarding a crumbling bridge in I think Louisville that was hit by a barge.


Yes Louisville...the bridge that led to Caesars casino boat in IND...Usta frequent that joint awhile back..:{>:


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