15% rake NYRA P5 officially starts Saturday
 

Mutuels Dept. exec Pat Mahoney confirms 15% rake P5 era begins Saturday, Opening Day at Belmont! 5 of 5 splits pool. No consos. Net pool carryovers if no winners.. Races 1-5 daily.

Should be a huge hit..

Can't wait. This is a big step in the right direction for NY racing.

Will they still offer an early pick 4?

I can't answer officially, but when we discussed the Pick-5 we had planned to.

Excellent

Terrific move. As is the Thursday P4 cross promotion with Penn National should both be great.

Yes.. Mahoney confirms early P4 continues starting with R2..

Outstanding. Glad to hear.

Any word as to whether Trakus will be installed for the Belmont meet?

Yes, it will be.

Cool, then we can have some more fun with timing discussions!

David Grening ‏@DRFGrening 51m: While Trakus will be unveiled at the Belmont meet, it will not be up and running opening day. Expect week of 9-25, maybe week earlier.

What's the timeframe for Trakus
data actually be made available in a usable format? No real use as it's presently presented

agree that this a great step forward for NY racing, but the placement of the pick5 i could do without

not giving too much consideration to those on the left coast who would have to start their day even earlier to take part in this wager, just saying

-bt-

I agree with you on the placement of the pk5. I think it would be a much bigger hit if it were the last 5 races of the day.

With great respect to my NYRA friends.....ABOUT TIME!!! It's really been a fun wagering opportunity in CA.

Also, Happy & Healthy New Year (5774) to the DT "tribe's folk."

So they'll basically just have to do what west coast NFL fans have been doing for decades? If it were the last five races instead, people would complain about it cannibalizing the Pick 6. A really good wagering opportunity is worth getting up early for IMO.

Agree better quality races and including stakes races/graded stakes in the sequence would be huge.

If you're NYRA, you have to have it on the 1st-5th. Having it on the last five races will hurt PK 6 handle and will hurt late PK 4 handle. The first five races are lower handling races that will benefit from people who looked at them for PK 5 purposes.

Early PK 4 handle is good, but not at the level of the late PK 4, especially on weekends.

As far as it being early in the day, I think people will find a way to deal with the atrocity of having to gamble before noon.

watching and handicapping are two very different things.
i can watch football at 9-10AM
Having to get up at 9-10AM get scratches/changes etc. etc. etc. and then formulate a strategy/opinion to invest in this pool isn't gonna be a thrilling idea for those out left who want to participate.

I understand why they're doing it, i get that it will eat away at the PK6 which is huge in NY. Aside from Del Mar, can you name another circuit who offers a pk5 on race 1, better yet, a circuit on the east coast who offers one?
I'd be interested to see how this affects the early pk4. And now, do you give more consideration as to where to place certain races ie: 5K, MSW, SMSW now that this wager is apart of your daily card?

-bt-