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Merlinsky 04-08-2013 09:48 PM

Penn National anti-slaughter policy violation?
 
http://www.paulickreport.com/news/ra...y-put-to-test/

Should be interesting to see how they handle this. Selling that horse for $1 under the circumstances smells like a rat. Doesn't take much "due diligence" as they put it to know what this horse could've faced. Lewis Michael is at Three Chimneys which I believe has an official policy of trying to save at risk horses that originated from directly from them, also keeping an eye out for horses by one of their stallions. Nobody thought to bring Prince Michael to their attention? Just chuck him, so much easier. :mad:

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/bl...for-slaughter/ Three Chimneys probably didn't even have a chance to find out about this horse to step in.

Cannon Shell 04-08-2013 11:01 PM

It isn't as simple as it sounds.

Merlinsky 04-14-2013 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 922885)
It isn't as simple as it sounds.

What part? The part where Prince Michael ended up in a potentially bad situation? Didn't sound like it was particularly hard to figure out he wouldn't be going to 'a good home' as it were.

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Days earlier, Prince Michael was allegedly sold to horse broker Phil Shirk for $1 by Ed Price, who handles bloodstock affairs for McClay. Shirk is believed by many in the horse welfare community to be a regular supplier to kill buyers (a Google search of Phil Shirk horse provides several examples).
Or do you mean the overall system of dealing with retired racehorses?

Cannon Shell 04-14-2013 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 923608)
What part? The part where Prince Michael ended up in a potentially bad situation? Didn't sound like it was particularly hard to figure out he wouldn't be going to 'a good home' as it were.



Or do you mean the overall system of dealing with retired racehorses?

Most people don't come with a horse slaughterer sign wrapped around their necks. You say that this situation wasn't particularly hard to figure out because you are looking at it after the fact.

While I have no idea what the intentions of the seller were or if had done any due diligence the fact is that once the horse leaves your care there isn't much that you can do. We have found what we thought were good homes for lots of horses over the years but sometimes the situation changes with out your knowledge or ability to do anything.

When they come to buy or "adopt" horses everyone has a story about a cheerful 12 year old that is going to be riding them or a big field of green grass that they will be staying on. Horses like Prince Micheal aren't even eligible for most of the racetrack retirement programs because they dont meet the requirements which usually is a certain number of local starts. Finding good homes for horses is far from an easy task and because the dirtbags know this posing as a legitimate buyer is pretty easily accomplished.

Danzig 04-14-2013 08:32 PM

and there isn't really a system to deal with retired racehorses. and there's supply and demand-and the demand for t'breds who can't race isn't near enough to match the supply. it's easy to say they can do better, or find them all a good home-everything works in theory, right?

Danzig 04-15-2013 10:55 AM

so, i just found out a friend of mine (truck driver) has a new job. he drives horses to the mexican border.
he said at least 60 a week are racehorses.

now, that's just one hauler. do the math. 60*52= 3120 a year, just on one truck. how many trucks a week go to mexico? 10, 20? 100? just from this area....what about further west, north, east?
so, start looking at the numbers-it would be impossible to find homes for those horses, no matter how hard you try. that's the stark and depressing reality.

freddymo 04-15-2013 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 923790)
so, i just found out a friend of mine (truck driver) has a new job. he drives horses to the mexican border.
he said at least 60 a week are racehorses.

now, that's just one hauler. do the math. 60*52= 3120 a year, just on one truck. how many trucks a week go to mexico? 10, 20? 100? just from this area....what about further west, north, east?
so, start looking at the numbers-it would be impossible to find homes for those horses, no matter how hard you try. that's the stark and depressing reality.

Does he have a 401k and health benefits?

Danzig 04-15-2013 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo (Post 923794)
Does he have a 401k and health benefits?

no.
cash weekly. said he's making real good money.


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