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TouchOfGrey 11-19-2012 05:52 PM

Ramon Dominguez
 
Nice write up in the New York Times, of all places.

An Unorthodox Jockey and Predictable Winner

The Devil 11-20-2012 06:31 AM

:tro:

ShadowRoll 11-20-2012 07:35 AM

He's had a brilliantly planned career. Used to like watching him ride at Delaware Park. In the media, his comments are always intelligent, thoughtful and even eloquent. Should get a job as a commentator when he hangs up the saddle.

Kasept 11-20-2012 07:54 AM

Free lance long read specialist Ryan Goldberg on ATR this morning at 9:30..

MaTH716 11-20-2012 08:00 AM

Nice article, thanks for posting.

geeker2 11-20-2012 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 902927)
Free lance long read specialist Ryan Goldberg on ATR this morning at 9:30..

Great interview Steve!

Patrick333 11-21-2012 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 902927)
Free lance long read specialist Ryan Goldberg on ATR this morning at 9:30..

Enjoyed the interview. Plus the article was very well written.

FATPIANO 11-21-2012 10:54 AM

Personally not a fan of Ramon, ever since his ride on ScrappyT in The Preakness, I still believe he had the race won, until He blew The turn, If he didn't blow the turn Afleet Alex would have never caught him, and I would have cashed a 100 double with Eddington, that double would have paid 735.00 for a 2 dollar bet, and I had a 100 double riding on that. Sorry no fan here.................

MaTH716 11-21-2012 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FATPIANO (Post 903070)
Personally not a fan of Ramon, ever since his ride on ScrappyT in The Preakness, I still believe he had the race won, until He blew The turn, If he didn't blow the turn Afleet Alex would have never caught him, and I would have cashed a 100 double with Eddington, that double would have paid 735.00 for a 2 dollar bet, and I had a 100 double riding on that. Sorry no fan here.................

He didn't blow the turn, the horse bolted after getting hit left handed.
For what it's worth I think Afleet Alex was going to catch even without the mishap.

Dahoss 11-21-2012 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 903072)
He didn't blow the turn, the horse bolted after getting hit left handed.
For what it's worth I think Afleet Alex was going to catch even without the mishap.

Of course he was going to catch him. If not for the incident at the top of the lane Afleet Alex wins by 7 or 8 lengths instead of 3.

pointman 11-21-2012 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FATPIANO (Post 903070)
Personally not a fan of Ramon, ever since his ride on ScrappyT in The Preakness, I still believe he had the race won, until He blew The turn, If he didn't blow the turn Afleet Alex would have never caught him, and I would have cashed a 100 double with Eddington, that double would have paid 735.00 for a 2 dollar bet, and I had a 100 double riding on that. Sorry no fan here.................

Wow, I mean WOW. :zz:

bigrun 11-21-2012 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadowRoll (Post 902924)
He's had a brilliantly planned career. Used to like watching him ride at Delaware Park. In the media, his comments are always intelligent, thoughtful and even eloquent. Should get a job as a commentator when he hangs up the saddle.

Loved him back in Del bout 10 years ago...a must use in ex and tris...Never could understand the heat he took from players at other sites for 'poor' rides..when he didn't win every race....one of the best..:tro:

bigrun 11-21-2012 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 903084)
Of course he was going to catch him. If not for the incident at the top of the lane Afleet Alex wins by 7 or 8 lengths instead of 3.

I was in the sweat box waiting for the official sign, please no change i got the ex!...Phew...:)

helicopter11 11-24-2012 02:55 PM

What a day for Ramon. He should be a solid lock for an eclipse this year

bigrun 11-24-2012 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by helicopter11 (Post 903649)
What a day for Ramon. He should be a solid lock for an eclipse this year

Yeah and nice prices, Ramon and JR in between gets you well...:tro:

iamthelurker 11-24-2012 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FATPIANO (Post 903070)
Personally not a fan of Ramon, ever since his ride on ScrappyT in The Preakness, I still believe he had the race won, until He blew The turn, If he didn't blow the turn Afleet Alex would have never caught him, and I would have cashed a 100 double with Eddington, that double would have paid 735.00 for a 2 dollar bet, and I had a 100 double riding on that. Sorry no fan here.................

Aw poor baby.

Dahoss 11-24-2012 05:13 PM

I like the guys (idiots) that say Ramon doesn't win on big days.

blackthroatedwind 11-24-2012 06:37 PM

His flawless ride on Stay Thirsty made the difference.

However, the riding exhibition of the day was the lesson Johnny taught to Junior Alvarado in the Demoiselle. He undressed him every which way.

Calzone Lord 11-24-2012 08:11 PM

I don't know if he'll learn anything from it. It was a 4-horse field, but a veritable match race when none of the other two horses wanted to go on a suicide mission and pressure a superior horse.

Velazquez had more early speed anyway, but once he won the break and Emollient was crossed and cleared on, and none of the two others wanted to do anything stupid ... I think the in-race odds might have shifted from Even VS 4/5 to about 3/5 VS 7/5 pretty quickly.

The early inside move was a bad choice, but none of the other options he had were that good, especially with his horse getting a little rank and not settling well down there.

Like Mike Tyson liked to say: "everyone has a plan until they get hit." Once he lost the break, once he got no help from the two other riders doing something dumb, and once his horse wasn't happy to settle, he was left with two bad choices and probably took the worst of the two.

blackthroatedwind 11-24-2012 09:48 PM

I guess he's one of your pets, but it's silly to defend his performance in the Demoiselle. He got schooled, it's as simple as that. He's a very good young rider, who likely has a very bright career ahead of him, but that performance is tough to defend. A top rider doesn't allow himself to be put in that position, especially in a big race. Plus, the halfway move inside, when Johnny threw that bait out there, was absolute amateur hour...and Johnny knew he would fall for it.

No doubt he was behind the eight ball, due to the speed advantage of his rival, but he has to have a plan to deal with that. Now, the slight stumble after the start hurt him, but you really need to watch the head-on of the backstretch. He needed to send in the four path hole Johnny herded his rivals to open, and establish position, or force Johnny to let it out a notch. Instead, he half went as they approached the turn, which is tentative and too late.

Yes, Johnny had the tactical advantage, but he used it to full advantage, and Junior gave him every edge.


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