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Rudeboyelvis 10-25-2012 07:23 PM

Obama on Romney - "He's a Bullsh1tter"
 
Executive editor Eric Bates told Obama that he had asked his six-year-old if there was anything she wanted him to say to the president … She said: 'Tell him: You can do it.'" Obama replied: "You know, kids have good instincts. They look at the other guy and say, 'Well, that's a bullshitter, I can tell'.


Stay Classy, O

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...?newsfeed=true

Dahoss 10-25-2012 07:34 PM

I love it. I wish politicians were this honest always.

Riot 10-25-2012 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 898384)
Executive editor Eric Bates told Obama that he had asked his six-year-old if there was anything she wanted him to say to the president … She said: 'Tell him: You can do it.'" Obama replied: "You know, kids have good instincts. They look at the other guy and say, 'Well, that's a bullshitter, I can tell'.


Stay Classy, O

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...?newsfeed=true

I think that anybody talking privately to another person can use whatever words they want between themselves. Don't you?

If you are offended at that term used by a President in private, for gosh sakes please don't read up about Lyndon Johnson, John Kennedy, Richard Nixon or George W. when they met with Congress and their Cabinets!

Danzig 10-25-2012 07:40 PM

romney is a bullsh!tter. nothing wrong with obama saying something that everyone knows is true.


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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 898386)
I love it. I wish politicians were this honest always.


i think diogenes wasn't looking for one honest man. i think he was looking for one honest politician.

Rudeboyelvis 10-25-2012 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 898389)
I think that anybody talking privately to another person can use whatever words they want between themselves. Don't you?

Yes, of course. Except when they are talking privately to a roomful of rich donors at a fundraiser and the dems get hold of it and make political hay out of it for a month. That's different.

Rudeboyelvis 10-25-2012 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 898390)
romney is a bullsh!tter. nothing wrong with obama saying something that everyone knows is true.





i think diogenes wasn't looking for one honest man. i think he was looking for one honest politician.

Agree completely, Zig. They are both classic bullsh1t artists. Just funny that the immediate hypocritical defense is "well, they were "talking privately", so that's different.

Never mind whatsoever that this "private" conversation was with the editor of Rolling Stone, either during or right after an interview - either way he knew his comments weren't off the record.... That makes me lol a little bit.

Danzig 10-25-2012 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 898398)
Agree completely, Zig. They are both classic bullsh1t artists. Just funny that the immediate hypocritical defense is "well, they were "talking privately", so that's different.

Never mind whatsoever that this "private" conversation was with the editor of Rolling Stone, either during or right after an interview - either way he knew his comments weren't off the record.... That makes me lol a little bit.

i wonder if cheney felt he was talking 'privately' when he told patrick leahy to go eff himself?? i think a lot of outrage was probably from people who can only dream of telling a politician something like that. :D

and when a reporter is involved, nothing, NOTHING is private or off the record.

Riot 10-25-2012 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 898393)
Yes, of course. Except when they are talking privately to a roomful of rich donors at a fundraiser and the dems get hold of it and make political hay out of it for a month. That's different.

Adjective choice is one thing. Your outrage was over "classy" and the use of what is considered a profanity by many. Which is rather funny - I had no idea you were so against the use of those words. Especially considering the completely foul, foul mouths that have historically inhabited the Oval Office and environs.

Romney-Ryan was just rated by Politifact (or FactCheck, I forget which) as speaking over 50% lies. Romney is a bullshitter!

Whole concepts relating that you think 47% of your fellow citizens "will never take responsibility for their lives" and are freeloaders is hardly the same thing - and it ends your presidential hopes. And rightly so.

Rudeboyelvis 10-25-2012 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 898408)
Adjective choice is one thing. Your outrage was over "classy" and the use of what is considered a profanity by many.

Whole concepts relating that you think 47% of your fellow citizens "will never take responsibility for their lives" and are freeloaders is hardly the same thing - and it ends your presidential hopes. And rightly so.

Yes because a standing US president calling his opponent a bullshitter is a classy thing to do, especially when it's reported by international media. Right. And feel free to redefine your point that "talking privately" only means what you want it to mean, when it suits your agenda.

Riot 10-25-2012 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 898411)
Yes because a standing US president calling his opponent a bullshitter is a classy thing to do, especially when it's reported by international media.

Obama didn't say, "Go fu.ck yourself", like Dick Cheney did in public on the Senate Floor.

Obama didn't say, "There's that major-league ******* from the NY Times" as President George W Bush did in public at a campaign rally.

Obama didn't say, "Dan Rather is a bastard" as President George HW Bush did in public at a press conference.

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Right. And feel free to redefine your point that "talking privately" only means what you want it to mean, when it suits your agenda.
Romney was in a private campaign dinner where cell phones are physically removed from the attendees, and they are told recording is forbidden. Obama was talking in private to the press (which isn't private).

Your outrage at Obama using the term "bullshi.tter" pretty funny, considering that Obama is considered by all around him to surprisingly be pretty profanity-free and polite, especially compared to George W (who had one hell of a potty mouth, all the time). And that doesn't even approach Lyndon Johnson, who talked profanity to the press all the time.

joeydb 10-25-2012 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 898415)
Obama didn't say, "Go fu.ck yourself", like Dick Cheney did in public on the Senate Floor.

Obama didn't say, "There's that major-league ******* from the NY Times" as President George W Bush did in public at a campaign rally.

Obama didn't say, "Dan Rather is a bastard" as President George HW Bush did in public at a press conference.



Romney was in a private campaign dinner where cell phones are physically removed from the attendees, and they are told recording is forbidden. Obama was talking in private to the press (which isn't private).

Your outrage at Obama using the term "bullshi.tter" pretty funny, considering that Obama is considered by all around him to surprisingly be pretty profanity-free and polite, especially compared to George W (who had one hell of a potty mouth, all the time). And that doesn't even approach Lyndon Johnson, who talked profanity to the press all the time.

So I guess, in the words of Joe Biden, this wasn't "A big f*cking deal?"

Riot 10-25-2012 09:02 PM

Everybody is, of course - especially the exceptionally patriotic conservative right wing - outraged at this lack of respect to the office of the President of the United States.

Simply outraged!

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Ohio State Representative Lynn Watchmann, introducing Mitt Romney at a campaign rally in Defiance, Ohio on Thursday evening called President Obama "disgusting," according to tweets by several CBS reporters on the scene.

"Ladies and gentlemen, this president is DISGUSTING!" State Rep speaking at Romney rally declares

Rudeboyelvis 10-25-2012 09:02 PM

What does Dick Cheney have to do with anything?

You are a trip. If Romney would have said anything remotely close to this, we'd have 15 propaganda threads about how he is incapable of running the country.


You're too much. 12 days till Buh Bye.

Riot 10-25-2012 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 898420)
What does Dick Cheney have to do with anything?

Just point out to you that the top elected officials of the land use profanity in public.

I know you are very upset about it, right?

What are you so upset about - that a profanity adjective was used instead of a non-profanity adjective?

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You are a trip. If Romney would have said anything remotely close to this, we'd have 15 propaganda threads about how he is incapable of running the country.
I could care less if Romney swore. Your ass-u-mption is wrong. But makes you look rather silly. I love it when people make things up out of thin air, then use that lie as a cudgel.

What I do care about is Romney's relentless and repeated outright lying. Mitt Romney is a serious and serial liar, about everything. He has repeatedly lied to the American public, to our faces. Because Romney is a serious, outrageous liar, he has disqualified himself from the Presidency - and that disqualification occurred in the 2008 campaign, not in 2012. 2012 just proved he still is what he is - a liar just like he was in 2008.

Rudeboyelvis 10-25-2012 09:14 PM

Hahahahaha.... she's spinning out of control again, folks.

He lies about EVERYTHING!!!??? Hahahahaha... I'm going to miss your brand of comedy.

Danzig 10-25-2012 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 898411)
Yes because a standing US president calling his opponent a bullshitter is a classy thing to do, especially when it's reported by international media. Right. And feel free to redefine your point that "talking privately" only means what you want it to mean, when it suits your agenda.

it really is lightweight compared to past chatter between candidates. of course any talk pales in comparison to canings, duals, guns being pulled on political opponents in House session. so tame these days.

Riot 10-25-2012 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 898426)
Hahahahaha.... she's spinning out of control again, folks.

He lies about EVERYTHING!!!??? Hahahahaha... I'm going to miss your brand of comedy.

I find the below pretty "funny", myself:

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Politifact tells the tale: Obama/Biden lead in truth department, Romney/Ryan tell more lies
By Eclectablog on October 21, 2012

For statements that were ruled to be “True” and “Mostly True”, it’s Obama and Biden at 45.0%, Romney and Ryan at 29.1%. When it comes to “False”, “Mostly False” and “Pants on Fire”, it’s Romney and Ryan at 43.9% and Obama and Biden at 28.8%.

In fact, Romney and Ryan have over 4 times as many “Pants of Fire” lies as the President and Vice President.

Mitt Romney himself has well over half of the total amount of “Pants of Fire” lies (58.6%) of all the candidates combined!
Speaking of Romney lying, did you see today's other news about Romney lying in court?

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Breaking Update: Court Unseals Potentially Devastating Testimony -- Romney Said Stocks Sold at 1/10th of Eventual Value Was 'Good Price'

Romney does appear to have covered for his friend during divorce proceedings by lying about stock price.

October 25, 2012 |

... snip ...

The controversy over Romney’s alleged lies under oath continues this Thursday, as a Massachusetts court unseals a testimony that some speculate could be devastating for the presidential candidate.

The famed feminist lawyer Gloria Allred has said that Mitt Romney lied in the divorce proceedings between her client, Maureen Sullivan Stemberg, and her husband, Tom, in order to protect the financial wealth of the former CEO of Staples.

If the allegations are true, the revelation could be yet another blow to the GOP during an election cycle in which many of the candidates have played old-boy’s-club politics and demonstrated disregard and sometimes outright scorn for women.

Rudeboyelvis 10-25-2012 09:42 PM

yeah, but he's only following suit. He hasn't earned the distinction of having his very own website dedicated to the Glorious Leader's benchmark

http://obamalies.net/

Rudeboyelvis 10-25-2012 09:50 PM

The difference is, I already know they are both full of sh1t. And neither is ever going to singularly solve the problems at hand.

You are the only delusional one that actually believes that Obama was not only a great president, but that 4 more years of his failures are somehow going to "fix" things. *cue the ponderous, repetitive posts of how he's already made everything great*

1. He is the greatest human being alive because I read his book
2. We're 16 trillion in the hole to get us back to zero. Success!



on and on and on.

Rupert Pupkin 10-25-2012 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 898430)
I find the below pretty "funny", myself:



Speaking of Romney lying, did you see today's other news about Romney lying in court?

How can he lie about the price of a stock? The price of a stock is public record. If he was wrong about the price of the stock, do you really think it was intentional? He would have to know that there would not even be a 1% chance that he could get away with it. The plaintiff and the plaintiff's lawyer are going to know what the price of the stock was and they will obviously present that evidence to the court if anyone has the price of the stock wrong.

With regards to Romney lying more than Obama, I am actually glad that you posted that. It was the first time that you basically admitted (assuming you trust politifact) that both Obama and Romney both lie. You are making progress. In the past I don't think I've ever heard you admit that both guys lie but Romney lies more. You usually just say that Romney lies and never mention that Obama lies.


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