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Danzig 09-13-2012 01:23 PM

latest from the Fed
 
http://economywatch.nbcnews.com/_new...h-economy?lite


buy more debt. interest rates to kept at 0% into 2015.

jms62 09-13-2012 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 889844)
http://economywatch.nbcnews.com/_new...h-economy?lite


buy more debt. interest rates to kept at 0% into 2015.

He doesn't keep his job if Obama loses and if the market had tanked Obama most certainly would have lost his job.

Danzig 09-13-2012 01:40 PM

dow up over 200 on the news.

Antitrust32 09-13-2012 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 889851)
dow up over 200 on the news.

on a scale of 1-100 i am about a 3 when it comes to understanding the stock market..

so i could be completely off base.

but dont the market numbers almost seem as fake as they did in 2008 when they crashed? what is this 13,500 based on when the economy is so bad and so many are not working? it seems like it is setting itself up to drop again.

jms62 09-13-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 889852)
on a scale of 1-100 i am about a 3 when it comes to understanding the stock market..

so i could be completely off base.

but dont the market numbers almost seem as fake as they did in 2008 when they crashed? what is this 13,500 based on when the economy is so bad and so many are not working? it seems like it is setting itself up to drop again.

Based on earnings , companies are as profitable as ever since they are sending jobs overseas. However they are also sending their Customers Revenue overseas because one companies wages are another companies revenue. Big guys at the top don't care as they will take care of themselves and their family for generations on what they are raking in Now. Kind of like clear cutting a forest. It is the Get Mine now and **** the country and the future generations.

Danzig 09-13-2012 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 889857)
Based on earnings , companies are as profitable as ever since they are sending jobs overseas. However they are also sending their Customers Revenue overseas because one companies wages are another companies revenue. Big guys at the top don't care as they will take care of themselves and their family for generations on what they are raking in Now. Kind of like clear cutting a forest. It is the Get Mine now and **** the country and the future generations.

lori,what he said.

the market isn't a good indicator of the overall economy. actually, i think people should be worried if the market makes a huge move in either direction.
my husband works at a company which was public, until purchased a few years ago and taken private. i think it's been to our benefit that it went private. no more earnings to report, no market share news, no ups and downs with stock, no keeping investors happy, paying of dividends and so on.
altho it may be good news insofar as the govt still trying to do all it can to help weather the storm, i am very concerned at the continued 0% interest. one of the things killing so many right now is loss of pension money. it's not just affecting retirees, but cities and other employers with 'guaranteed' pensions. they can't grow if there is no interest to be paid.
who knows of a cd out there that earns above 2% right now?? at that rate, it will take 36 years for the money invested to double. that's awful! just one example of course.

Antitrust32 09-13-2012 02:41 PM

i personally dont trust the market or the banks. i think my retirement plan will be a fireproof safe.. or gold

Danzig 09-13-2012 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 889868)
i personally dont trust the market or the banks. i think my retirement plan will be a fireproof safe.. or gold

buy life insurance as a good back up. it's got guarantees, it's protected by insurance, much like bank accounts with fdic. and when it pays out to a beneficiary, there's no taxes taken out. and the cash value that grows if it's a whole life type-you can use later if you wish. in many cases, growth in a whole life that earns dividends can outperform other funds. and, unlike a 401k, it does have guaranteed cash value in it.
i'm seeing more and more financial managers recommending buying insurance. and unlike a lot of other things, rates on life insurance have gone down over the years, because we live longer.

Clip-Clop 09-13-2012 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 889868)
i personally dont trust the market or the banks. i think my retirement plan will be a fireproof safe.. or gold

Food, Water and ammo. ;)

Danzig 09-17-2012 07:33 PM

http://factcheck.org/2012/09/double-whopper-no-beef/

that's factchecks take on romneys comments regarding the fed and obama.

Coach Pants 09-18-2012 06:41 AM

Anonymous...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=ASylfrr7iog

Not perfect...but pretty damn good.


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