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Dahoss 08-26-2012 02:25 PM

Baffert/O'neill Drama
 
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/...nd-oneill-bar/

So I'm just trying to figure out what the Baffert's (yes both of them) problem is here. It's not like they haven't been the recipient of horses via private purchase .

Maybe there is more than meets the eye here, and if someone with more info could fill us in it'd be most appreciated. Because from here, it looks like sour grapes.

Coach Pants 08-26-2012 02:28 PM

Just from that story it simply looks like Jill being Jill. A social climber with severe narcissistic tendencies and entitlement shaking her two rattles when one of her possessions is taken away.

Not much more to it, I would imagine. It's well documented she's impossible to deal with...even before she met him.

10 pnt move up 08-26-2012 02:31 PM

That's pretty funny, Baffert had no problem with they swooped in and took War Emblem, who was for sale.

Don't sell your horse and then bitch about selling it.

Coach Pants 08-26-2012 02:34 PM

To clarify I'm not saying the O'Neill camp is innocent or didn't deserve the hysterics...

I'd never support a guy that looks like he knows the lyrics to all Smash Mouth songs.

RockHardTen1985 08-26-2012 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 886435)
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/...nd-oneill-bar/

So I'm just trying to figure out what the Baffert's (yes both of them) problem is here. It's not like they haven't been the recipient of horses via private purchase .

Maybe there is more than meets the eye here, and if someone with more info could fill us in it'd be most appreciated. Because from here, it looks like sour grapes.

Sour grapes from who? His loud mouth wife?
Best barn in America, by far. I doubt he cares much about the 7yr old. Jaycito is more likely the Richards Kid.

Danzig 08-26-2012 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 886435)
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/...nd-oneill-bar/

So I'm just trying to figure out what the Baffert's (yes both of them) problem is here. It's not like they haven't been the recipient of horses via private purchase .

Maybe there is more than meets the eye here, and if someone with more info could fill us in it'd be most appreciated. Because from here, it looks like sour grapes.

Jill just showing the level of class she has always had, which is none. Its business, not personal, but she apparently can't understand that.

helicopter11 08-26-2012 03:17 PM

Settle it on the track.

Dahoss 08-26-2012 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 886451)
Sour grapes from who? His loud mouth wife?
Best barn in America, by far. I doubt he cares much about the 7yr old. Jaycito is more likely the Richards Kid.

How about a bet...you take Jaycito and I'll take Richard's Kid. It'll be head to head. My horse finishes better than yours and you don't post here until 2013. Yours finishes in front of mine and I won't post here until 2013.

And you can't post as Zaftig either. deal?

RockHardTen1985 08-26-2012 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 886467)
How about a bet...you take Jaycito and I'll take Richard's Kid. It'll be head to head. My horse finishes better than yours and you don't post here until 2013. Yours finishes in front of mine and I won't post here until 2013.

And you can't post as Zaftig either. deal?

I have no issue with you anymore. But sure Ill take it. I dont post much anyway and theres something for growing up. If you win, Ill stick to my word. Not even a goodbye post.
Im not Zatfig.

Cannon Shell 08-26-2012 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 886435)
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/...nd-oneill-bar/

So I'm just trying to figure out what the Baffert's (yes both of them) problem is here. It's not like they haven't been the recipient of horses via private purchase .

Maybe there is more than meets the eye here, and if someone with more info could fill us in it'd be most appreciated. Because from here, it looks like sour grapes.

Greed. Virtually all the big stables are greedy. The funny thing is the idiots that run tracks not only buy into it but pass rules like limiting 2 yo sprints to 8 that help those with the monopoly further capitalize on their greed.

There are plenty of good trainers that would kill to get one top stakes horse let alone virtually every good older horse on the West Coast and a new crop of 100 well bred 2 yo's every year.

RockHardTen1985 08-26-2012 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 886539)
Greed. Virtually all the big stables are greedy. The funny thing is the idiots that run tracks not only buy into it but pass rules like limiting 2 yo sprints to 8 that help those with the monopoly further capitalize on their greed.

There are plenty of good trainers that would kill to get one top stakes horse let alone virtually every good older horse on the West Coast and a new crop of 100 well bred 2 yo's every year.

Im actually going to try to be serious here. Is it Bafferts fault that he has all the good horses? He has the horses based on past success, right?

Cannon Shell 08-26-2012 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 886545)
Im actually going to try to be serious here. Is it Bafferts fault that he has all the good horses? He has the horses based on past success, right?

Is it Bafferts fault? No it isnt his fault but obviously his wife feels HIS interests supercede the former owner of Richard's Kid. The thing that you and shockingly many owners dont seem to get is that these guys interests are considered ahead of the owners which is the cart pulling the horse and is what has allowed these 5 race schedules to come to pass.

Dont cry when someone does to you what you have done to so many others. It isn;t like Baffert planned the mating and raised Richards Kid from birth. His people bought the horse as a ready made horse from someone else.

RockHardTen1985 08-26-2012 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 886552)
Is it Bafferts fault? No it isnt his fault but obviously his wife feels HIS interests supercede the former owner of Richard's Kid. The thing that you and shockingly many owners dont seem to get is that these guys interests are considered ahead of the owners which is the cart pulling the horse and is what has allowed these 5 race schedules to come to pass.

Dont cry when someone does to you what you have done to so many others. It isn;t like Baffert planned the mating and raised Richards Kid from birth. His people bought the horse as a ready made horse from someone else.

I actually dont think this has anything to do with BOB, and more his wife being a spoiled big mouth who feels entitled. Yes shes hot, but thats not the point.

Cannon Shell 08-26-2012 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 886553)
I actually dont think this has anything to do with BOB, and more his wife being a spoiled big mouth who feels entitled. Yes shes hot, but thats not the point.

She was a TV news reporter used to reading things someone else wrote. Would guess she was just repeating what she heard. Stop defending Baffert, he of all people doesnt give a damn what we think and doesnt need you defending him. As a matter of fact he might appreciate if you no longer spoke of him TRO style.

RockHardTen1985 08-26-2012 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 886467)
How about a bet...you take Jaycito and I'll take Richard's Kid. It'll be head to head. My horse finishes better than yours and you don't post here until 2013. Yours finishes in front of mine and I won't post here until 2013.

And you can't post as Zaftig either. deal?


I need Jaycito for $174x6.

Danzig 08-26-2012 07:26 PM

Its nice they put dullahan back where he belongs, it paid off for sure. But i disagree with what was just said by the owner....no way he is in the mix for top 3yo, he is a poly specialist.

Dahoss 08-26-2012 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 886557)
I need Jaycito for $174x6.

See you next year. And stop sending me pm's.

asudevil 08-26-2012 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 886442)
To clarify I'm not saying the O'Neill camp is innocent or didn't deserve the hysterics...

I'd never support a guy that looks like he knows the lyrics to all Smash Mouth songs.

:tro::tro:

Great work.

Danzig 09-01-2012 09:46 AM

just saw this on equidaily, a statement from zabeel on the sale of richard's kid:

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/...ing-richards-/

Dahoss 09-01-2012 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 887781)
just saw this on equidaily, a statement from zabeel on the sale of richard's kid:

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/...ing-richards-/

Very interesting...


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