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tanner12oz 08-21-2012 11:04 AM

I Heart Questing!
 
i only get all gooey about a handful of horses a year and this is one of them...she just runs her heart out from the first step simply strangles her competition into submission. on saturday any of the fillies that tried to keep pace with her werent even in the same zip code when that race ended...not to make light of injuries but she literally broke her competition. simply amazing.

she can get better too....if they ever figure out the stretch drive with her...

seriously though...one of the best performances i have seen this year and i imagine the BSF number shows it

Calzone Lord 08-21-2012 11:55 AM

Leparoux has had the misfortune of losing a lot of good recent mounts.

* I'll Have Another finished in the middle of the pack with Leparoux in the Hopeful. Wins his next race at 43/1 and never loses again.

* Wise Dan finished 4th in an Alw race at Churchill with Leperoux on -- and came back a few weeks later to romp in the Firecraker at 14/1 odds with Leparoux off.

* Questing was off the board in back-to-back starts in turf alw races for Leparoux -- she switched to Irad Ortiz Jr. AND dirt. Huge figure alw win, followed by back-to-back romping Gr 1 wins.

* Fort Larned was beat by 12 lengths in the Foster with Leparoux up -- and he came right back to dominate the Cornhusker at 7/2 and win the Whitney at 7/1 for Brian Hernandez Jr. in his next two races.

* Emma's Encore was 2nd in a dirt alw at Belmont with Leparoux before she went to Junior Alverado and won the Victory Ride at 39/1 odds and the Grade 1 Prioress at 5/1 in her next two starts.

* Union Rags was 3rd in the Florida Derby to Take Charge Indy and well beaten in the Kentucky Derby with Leparoux -- he won the Belmont at 5/2 with Johnny V.

At the very least, Julian has been unlucky. That's a lot of quality mounts he couldn't capitalize on . Fortunately for guys like Mario Gutierraz, Junior Alvarado, Irad Ortiz, Brian Hernandez Jr., and John Court who don't get many shots on real horses these days.

PatCummings 08-21-2012 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 885173)
Leparoux has had the misfortune of losing a lot of good recent mounts.

* I'll Have Another finished in the middle of the pack with Leparoux in the Hopeful. Wins his next race at 43/1 and never loses again.

* Wise Dan finished 4th in an Alw race at Churchill with Leperoux on -- and came back a few weeks later to romp in the Firecraker at 14/1 odds with Leparoux off.

* Questing was off the board in back-to-back starts in turf alw races for Leparoux -- she switched to Irad Ortiz Jr. AND dirt. Huge figure alw win, followed by back-to-back romping Gr 1 wins.

* Fort Larned was beat by 12 lengths in the Foster with Leparoux up -- and he came right back to dominate the Cornhusker at 7/2 and win the Whitney at 7/1 for Brian Hernandez Jr. in his next two races.

* Emma's Encore was 2nd in a dirt alw at Belmont with Leparoux before she went to Junior Alverado and won the Victory Ride at 39/1 odds and the Grade 1 Prioress at 5/1 in her next two starts.

* Union Rags was 3rd in the Florida Derby to Take Charge Indy and well beaten in the Kentucky Derby with Leparoux -- he won the Belmont at 5/2 with Johnny V.

At the very least, Julian has been unlucky. That's a lot of quality mounts he couldn't capitalize on . Fortunately for guys like Mario Gutierraz, Junior Alvarado, Irad Ortiz, Brian Hernandez Jr., and John Court who don't get many shots on real horses these days.

Wow. When does what appears to be a trend become more than just bad luck...?

Calzone Lord 08-21-2012 12:09 PM

I don't know -- it's hard to say without doing a thorough statistical study.

But those high profile horses make him seem like a human anchor of some kind.

I'm sure a lot of it is just bad luck -- but I was never a fan of Leparoux and never understood why he was quickly made and anointed as a great jockey.

asudevil 08-21-2012 12:46 PM

He couldn't phucking dig in deep in the phucking BC Mile on Turallure?? Let that old hag Court Vision with Jailhouse Robbie beat him? That nose hair cost me what would have been my greatest pick 4 score by far. I'll never be the same after that.....NEVAH!!

MaTH716 08-21-2012 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by asudevil (Post 885193)
He couldn't phucking dig in deep in the phucking BC Mile on Turallure?? Let that old hag Court Vision with Jailhouse Robbie beat him? That nose hair cost me what would have been my greatest pick 4 score by far. I'll never be the same after that.....NEVAH!!

I think everyone on the board needed Turallure. I still get sick thinking about that beat.

asudevil 08-21-2012 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 885203)
I think everyone on the board needed Turallure. I still get sick thinking about that beat.

Agida revisited:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_JY35JjPt8

ateamstupid 08-21-2012 02:59 PM

The fact that he pumped his fist after the wire makes it worse.

Merlinsky 08-21-2012 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 885178)
I don't know -- it's hard to say without doing a thorough statistical study.

But those high profile horses make him seem like a human anchor of some kind.

I'm sure a lot of it is just bad luck -- but I was never a fan of Leparoux and never understood why he was quickly made and anointed as a great jockey.

The French accent? Maybe they think it sounds fancy.

Who were his first big rides when he got here? I feel like he made a splash with something and just sort of took off. Can't remember who the first horse or horses was/were.

Calzone Lord 08-21-2012 03:32 PM

He had a great couple of Breeders Cup days at Santa Anita.

That Pro-Ride at Santa Anita suited his style perfectly -- good horses could go a 51 flat half mile -- and deep closers would blow by them in the stretch. That surface was a joke. Good thing SA got rid of it...but still hard to believe they allowed such major races to take part on it.

Travis Stone 08-21-2012 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 885203)
I think everyone on the board needed Turallure. I still get sick thinking about that beat.

We were just talking about that the other day. Like many, I had Turallure well covered. I watched the race from my phone at a gas station and remember just laughing at the result. I wouldn't have bet that winner even if you told me the results before the race.

asudevil 08-21-2012 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone (Post 885267)
We were just talking about that the other day. Like many, I had Turallure well covered. I watched the race from my phone at a gas station and remember just laughing at the result. I wouldn't have bet that winner even if you told me the results before the race.

I watched it on the phone at my 8 year old son's soccer game. Can you understand why all of the other Mom's think I'm insane? That's right Joey...I saw the fist pump and did a little jig....Then I saw the tote board/photo.

ateamstupid 08-21-2012 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 885259)
The French accent? Maybe they think it sounds fancy.

Who were his first big rides when he got here? I feel like he made a splash with something and just sort of took off. Can't remember who the first horse or horses was/were.

He rode Biancone's coattails into other quality mounts when he was still an elite trainer, pre-Cobra venom.

NTamm1215 08-21-2012 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid (Post 885278)
He rode Biancone's coattails into other quality mounts when he was still an elite trainer, pre-Cobra venom.

Right. Gorella helped him quite a bit as well.

pointman 08-21-2012 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 885173)
Leparoux has had the misfortune of losing a lot of good recent mounts.

* I'll Have Another finished in the middle of the pack with Leparoux in the Hopeful. Wins his next race at 43/1 and never loses again.

* Wise Dan finished 4th in an Alw race at Churchill with Leperoux on -- and came back a few weeks later to romp in the Firecraker at 14/1 odds with Leparoux off.

* Questing was off the board in back-to-back starts in turf alw races for Leparoux -- she switched to Irad Ortiz Jr. AND dirt. Huge figure alw win, followed by back-to-back romping Gr 1 wins.

* Fort Larned was beat by 12 lengths in the Foster with Leparoux up -- and he came right back to dominate the Cornhusker at 7/2 and win the Whitney at 7/1 for Brian Hernandez Jr. in his next two races.

* Emma's Encore was 2nd in a dirt alw at Belmont with Leparoux before she went to Junior Alverado and won the Victory Ride at 39/1 odds and the Grade 1 Prioress at 5/1 in her next two starts.

* Union Rags was 3rd in the Florida Derby to Take Charge Indy and well beaten in the Kentucky Derby with Leparoux -- he won the Belmont at 5/2 with Johnny V.

At the very least, Julian has been unlucky. That's a lot of quality mounts he couldn't capitalize on . Fortunately for guys like Mario Gutierraz, Junior Alvarado, Irad Ortiz, Brian Hernandez Jr., and John Court who don't get many shots on real horses these days.

Great stuff! I am amazed at how many good mounts Pepe gets when there are so many good jocks, even young ones and a very good bug, in the locker room. I have to believe that trainers/owners are not realizing how many top horses have been upgraded with Leparoux off. He should not be riding regularly in New York.

declansharbor 08-21-2012 06:15 PM

And people actually thought that the frog was better than Bejarano when they were emerging!! :eek:

Calzone Lord 08-25-2012 05:04 PM

If Dutrow Jr. trained Questing -- she would have come back in a week and absolutely smoked the Travers field.

It's bad enough that Magic Ticket was a joint winner -- but the other Speightstown layoff horse carried that field along for a mile and was only beaten about 7 or 8 lengths and he'd been off since February the 4th.

cmorioles 08-25-2012 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 886244)
If Dutrow Jr. trained Questing -- she would have come back in a week and absolutely smoked the Travers field.

It's bad enough that Magic Ticket was a joint winner -- but the other Speightstown layoff horse carried that field along for a mile and was only beaten about 7 or 8 lengths and he'd been off since February the 4th.

That was brutal.

Calzone Lord 08-25-2012 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 886246)
That was brutal.

It wasn't pretty.

Golden Ticket was Leparoux off. He finished 2nd in an N1X Alw/opt claimer last out with him up. So the bad luck for Julian continues.

The great David Cohen got him a share of the win with a nice ground saving trip.

The ROI on 'Leparoux off' must be staggering.

Sightseek 08-25-2012 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 886262)
It wasn't pretty.

Golden Ticket was Leparoux off. He finished 2nd in an N1X Alw/opt claimer last out with him up. So the bad luck for Julian continues.

The great David Cohen got him a share of the win with a nice ground saving trip.

The ROI on 'Leparoux off' must be staggering.

Of course he just won the last and killed any chance of me cashing a ticket today. :mad:


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