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And the Nominee is:

Paul Ryan WI. :tro::tro::tro:

Very conservative on econmomic issues and middle of the road on social ones. A man elected to the House of Rep at age 29 from Janesville ( a democratic leaning, blue collar, mixed race district)

Great nominee and fantastic for whoever wins the Republican senate primary this Tues.

Now watch them squirm...:$:::p;):D

Strong pick!

That should be some debate between Ryan and Biden :)

The race now begins.

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 882482)

:) Very happy with his pick!

Just looked up his financial disclosure forms (required by all house and senate members) and using the UNICEF model demonstrating the U.S. is second among the industrialized nations (Latvia beat us) for defining poor children we find out Mr. Ryan is actually poor among house members as his net worth is less than half the median among house members. Compared to Senate members he'd be homeless and starving. Geez his poor kids ;)

http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/CIDs...4357&year=2010

My lord take a look at Nancy Pelosi. She's caked. Why doesn't she give some cash to poor Ryan.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/CIDs...7360&year=2010

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 882482)

A Catholic who opposes gay rights and abortion..yep..that's middle of the road, Republican style

oh yeah...and he's a hunter so I'm sure a card carrying member of the NRA

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 882514)

A Catholic who opposes gay rights and abortion..yep..that's middle of the road, Republican style

A Catholic who is true to his faith.

Since Danzig proved 9/10 Americans don't really believe in God (secretly) his faith should be the weak spot to hit him on.

Obama should just come out and admit he secretly doesn't believe in God and religion is all bullshiat. ;)

I am shocked that Riot hasn't started her character assassination on Ryan yet.

Just like I predicted, the VP choice would be a lot more intelligent than Biden, although anyone who he choose would have been a lot smarter than that idiot Biden. Do you think Biden will have guts to debate Ryan? I hope so, Ryan will destroy that moron.

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Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 882501)

Strong pick!

That should be some debate between Ryan and Biden :)

Lyin' Joe Biden will make things up as he goes along.

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 882514)

A Catholic who opposes gay rights and abortion..yep..that's middle of the road, Republican style

oh yeah...and he's a hunter so I'm sure a card carrying member of the NRA

Catholic "Nuns on the Bus", and the Catholic Bishops, have made public statement after public statement, and have said negative things about Paul Ryan for over a year, due to the Ryan Budget's terrible treatment of the poor. No, Ryan is not "true to his faith" at all, Dell. He throws Jesus' teachings under the bus, actually.

Today the Romney camp already released a statement trying to separate Mitt from the Ryan Budget (yes, I"m dead serious)

No, Ryan isn't "middle of the road" on social issues at all, and the Catholic Church has generously spent the last year pointing out they don't agree with Mr. Ryan's non-Catholic positions on harming the poor, elderly and needy.

This was a panic pick, a result of Mitt's terrible weak of plummeting in the polls. Thursday Mitt publicly requested Obama stop asking him about Bain - LOL

Romney has given in to the screaming ultra-conservative wingnut base of his party, who bullied him into this pick over the past 4 days, a pick so "important" it was rushed into release late on a Friday night newsdump after 11:00pm, highlighted at 5:30 am pacific time, in the middle of the Olympics?

This was a pure panic move of Romney trying to save his candidacy with his wingnut base who can't stand him.

The Obama camp is literally salivating at the prospect of hanging the Ryan budget "end Medicare as we know it, have a voucher and a $6,000 increase in your costs, everyone" around the neck of every single congressional Republican race this fall.

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 882516)

And you wonder why other posters think youre an idiot. You take what people post and add your own bs to it. Do you feel it adds credibility to your incoherent rants?

Paul Ryan, Catholic, actively attacked as against Church teachings by the Church

Paul Ryan Budget attacked openly by Catholic Church, since release, as being against Church teachings.

BTW, Joe Biden is Catholic.

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The Catholic Church is already under immense stress. Just Friday (August 11), the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR), which represents most Catholic nuns in America, formally rejected the Vatican takeover of their organization and its accompanying Bishop overseers.

These nuns have been accused of emphasizing work with the poor and not focusing enough on issues such as abortion and gay marriage. Some of them participated in the media-friendly Nuns On A Bus tour, during which they traveled to nine states protesting the budget proposal of Rep. Paul Ryan. Sister Simone Campbell was quoted as saying that Ryan's budget "rejects church teaching about solidarity, inequality, the choice for the poor, and the common good. That's wrong."

Their months-long critique of Rep. Ryan's budget is unlikely to lessen in the coming months (now that Ryan is on the GOP ticket).

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Last April, the US Catholic Bishops sent a blistering message to the House Ways and Means Committee saying that any federal budget must be judged by the way it protects the 'least of these.' In Bishop Blaire's words: "The House-passed budget resolution fails to meet these moral criteria."

The architect of the budget the Bishops deemed immoral was Rep. Paul Ryan, a Catholic, who has now joined Mitt Romney as his running mate on the GOP ticket

Paul Ryan lost his father as a teenager, and lived on Social Security Survivor Benefits from his father's death.

Paul Ryan then attended college on Pell Grants and Federal Student Loans.

Ryan was elected to Congress at the age of 28, and has had a government job with government paycheck, government health plan, and government retirement account ever since.

Ryan lives in a mansion in Jaynesville that is on National Register of Historic Places, thus gets a 20% tax write off for his housing, which is maintained by the federal National Park Service.

Keep that in mind as you re-read the Ryan Budget Plan, attacked by the Catholic Church as "immoral".

Ryan, a Catholic himself, is a strict believer and pusher of atheist writer Ayn Rands Objectivism, and Ryan calls for complete government independence by all people, ending most gov. support for anybody needy or poor in his budget (which is why the Catholic Church, both nuns and Bishops, call it "immoral").

Except himself, who has lived off the government his entire life, and continues to do so now.

There is a clear choice this election for the American people. But easily-told-what-to-do Mitt will still have to release his income tax returns, even after he allowed the WSJ and Bill Kristol to pick his VP candidate for him in an emergency panic.

Obama has also lived off of the Government his entire life. What the hell is a community organizer?

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Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 882613)

Obama has also lived off of the Government his entire life. What the hell is a community organizer?

No. False. Your rabid, nasty-tempered blind ignorance, lying and stupidity are simply stunning:

Obama's first job was working for the Catholic Church, managing a budget, employees, hiring.

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Obama worked for three years from June 1985 to May 1988 as director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP), a church-based community organization originally comprising eight Catholic parishes in Greater Roseland (Roseland, West Pullman, and Riverdale) on Chicago's far South Side.

During his three years as the DCP's director, its staff grew from 1 to 13 and its annual budget grew from $70,000 to $400,000, with accomplishments including helping set up a job training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants' rights organization in Altgeld Gardens.

Obama also worked as a consultant and instructor for the Gamaliel Foundation, a community organizing institute.[48]

Obama worked his way through law school, like most poor students:

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While in law school he worked as an associate at the law firms of Sidley & Austin in 1989, where he met his wife, Michelle, and where Newton N. Minow was a managing partner. In the summer of 1990 he worked at Hopkins & Sutter.

He graduated with a J.D. magna cum laude from Harvard in 1991 and returned to Chicago.[51]

Obama returned after graduation to Chicago, got married, more work:

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Obama directed Illinois Project Vote from April to October 1992. He headed up a staff of 10 and 700 volunteers that achieved its goal of 400,000 registered African Americans in the state, leading Crain's Chicago Business to name Obama to its 1993 list of "40 under Forty" powers to be

Although fundraising was not required for the position when Obama was recruited for the job, he started an active campaign to raise money for the project. According to Sandy Newman, who founded Project Vote, Obama "raised more money than any of our state directors had ever done. He did a great job of enlisting a broad spectrum of organizations and people, including many who did not get along well with one another."

With kids on the way, Obama went to work at a better-paying, more regular job, as a teacher:

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Obama taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years, as a Lecturer for four years (1992–1996), and as a Senior Lecturer for eight years (1996–2004).

Obama then worked as a full-time lawyer:

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In 1993 Obama joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 12-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004. During the four years Obama worked as a full time lawyer at the firm, he was involved in 30 cases and accrued 3,723 billable hours.

And then, this man who worked his way through school, life, marriage, and starting a family, entered politics.

To be fair I'm jumping on and off and reading stuff in pieces here and there but this caught my attention.... not so much because really anyone can be said to have been an "associate" in a workplace where they have connections but this... this is what interests me.....

In 1993 Obama joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 12-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004.During the four years Obama worked as a full time lawyer at the firm, he was involved in 30 cases and accrued 3,723 billable hours.

Now I'm only doing the math in my head but this - the number of hours - doesn't this seem very very low?

http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2012/...ning_mate.html

just saw this on slate. people celebrating mitts choice are not all republicans.

Looks like this pick energized the base....the democratic base.

Would you expect the Democrats to act any differently? All of their lies and dirty tricks about Ryan will start. It is interesting that they are cheering someone who has consistently been elected from a Democrat dominated district.

Looks like Riot has a new Sockpuppet.