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bigrun 08-09-2012 05:22 PM

Forget Joe the Plumber — meet Joe the Steelworker
 
Beyond the Obama ads, Joe Soptic’s steelworker story.

Business as usual some may say...

Quote:

Joe Soptic, 62, has become a go-to figure for supporters of President Obama, appearing this week in his second campaign ad talking about being laid off from a Kansas City, Mo., steel plant that was taken over by Bain Capital in 1993.


On Wednesday, Obama advisers distanced themselves from the former steelworker and the most recent ad, saying they were unaware of the details of Soptic’s account about his wife. “We don’t have any knowledge of the story of the family,” spokeswoman Jen Psaki said on Air Force One.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...c=nl_headlines

Riot 08-09-2012 05:24 PM

The third thread on the same subject :tro:

Thepaindispenser 08-09-2012 08:26 PM

What a classless, lying lowlife Obama is which is not surprising since he has resorted to these despicable tactics in every race he has run. Also, when you have zero accomplishments and your policies have produced the worst recovery in 65 years, he has nothing positive to run on. It's the Chicago way.

How great is it that the scumbag Obama tried to lie his way of it and got busted!

Danzig 08-09-2012 08:39 PM

http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/3d28...951b453f31b316

dellinger63 08-09-2012 08:43 PM

Disgusting!

bigrun 08-09-2012 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 882103)

He said he said..:wf

Riot 08-09-2012 09:02 PM

The Obama hate and outrage over an ad which is not false, but only shading the timing, is sadly hypocritical, considering the last three ads Romney campaign has put out over the past three weeks (not a superpac), including this mornings release, have been labeled screaming "pants on fire" lies by the media, because of the complete and outright lying about what the President said by Romney campaign :rolleyes:

Aggressive lies in campaign ads is exactly what Romney did to his opponents in his primaries this spring, and what he did in his last failed run for President in 2008. And it's the reason why the rest of the Republican party have been on record, publicly, about not being able to stand the guy.

dellinger63 08-09-2012 09:10 PM

did you guys here of the lady who died of cancer that Mitt killed?

Riot 08-09-2012 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 882111)
did you guys here of the lady who died of cancer that Mitt killed?

No! Do tell! This thread isn't about that story, either are the other two threads that already exist since yesterday about it! :D

pointman 08-09-2012 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 882109)
The Obama hate and outrage over an ad which is not false, but only shading the timing, is sadly hypocritical, considering the last three ads Romney campaign has put out over the past three weeks (not a superpac), including this mornings release, have been labeled screaming "pants on fire" lies by the media, because of the complete and outright lying about what the President said by Romney campaign :rolleyes:

Aggressive lies in campaign ads is exactly what Romney did to his opponents in his primaries this spring, and what he did in his last failed run for President in 2008. And it's the reason why the rest of the Republican party have been on record, publicly, about not being able to stand the guy.

The ad is false and while I have not seen the Romney adds, I am pretty sure that I am safe in saying they didn't accuse Obama of being a murderer.

dellinger63 08-09-2012 09:25 PM

Did you guys hear Mitt killed a women? By cancer!

Riot 08-09-2012 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 882115)
The ad is false and while I have not seen the Romney adds, I am pretty sure that I am safe in saying they didn't accuse Obama of being a murderer.

As I said, I tend to agree the ad is over the line, pretty tough, but prove it: what facts in the Obama ad are false? List the words said in the ad, the transcript, and which of those words are lies.

I suggest you go listen to the Romney ads before you defend Romney's outrageous lies.

Danzig 08-09-2012 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 882108)
He said he said..:wf

yeah...it is. and obama making comments about superpacs for romney...but nothing about the ones running ads on his behalf. yeah, pure as the driven snow. :rolleyes:

but like the article says, they all do it-cause it works. people say they don't like negative ads, but they wouldn't run them if they didn't produce results.

then again, i was reading earlier today about polling women-should any programs be cut. the answer an overwhelming NO! but then when they ask raise taxes or cut programs, the answer was cut. er...but ya just said don't cut anything! lol


we are so screwed.

dellinger63 08-09-2012 09:36 PM

But he killed this poor women and no one but obama and his superpac care?

dellinger63 08-09-2012 09:37 PM

How many other women did Mitt kill?

pointman 08-09-2012 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 882118)
As I said, I tend to agree the ad is over the line, pretty tough, but prove it: what facts in the Obama ad are false? List the words said in the ad, the transcript, and which of those words are lies.

I suggest you go listen to the Romney ads before you defend Romney's outrageous lies.

I have already answered this question in another thread and I am certain you read it. The Washington Post gave the ad 4 Pinocchio's, its highest rating for falseness and called the ad false. The ad goes below a level of taste never displayed before IMO.

Oh, and Joe Soptic admitted a few hours ago that Bain offered him a buyout, something that he has failed to mention the last two days while giving the impression that he was tossed out on his a$$. Disgusting.

Thepaindispenser 08-09-2012 09:40 PM

The ad is a big lie. Joe Septic (that is not a misspelling, it is a descriptive term) lost his job in 2001, his wife had health insurance through her employer into 2003 when she left her job and she died in 2006. There you have it Riot, it is a patently false ad and your idol Obama tried to lie his way out of it and has yet to denounce it. His is a lowlie gutter rat who appeals to the ignorant and brain-celled challenged people of America. Come on Riot tell us about a Romney ad that comes even close to this.

Thepaindispenser 08-10-2012 03:18 PM

I also forgot to mention that Romney left Bain in 1999 and the company went bankrupt in 2001.

Riot 08-10-2012 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thepaindispenser (Post 882293)
I also forgot to mention that Romney left Bain in 1999 and the company went bankrupt in 2001.

My god. GbBob was right. You are so effing, stupid, you can't see how funny you look in your ignorance.

It just makes it more obvious who you really are, Sockpuppet.

Clip-Clop 08-10-2012 03:32 PM

Mitt Romney made $92 million in profit per company he bankrupted and there were many, yet is only worth a quarter billion. Guy is actually the worst businessman ever and clearly not qualified to be anything, let alone President.


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