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Clip-Clop 08-09-2012 10:09 AM

A little bit of a stretch perhaps?
 
This campaign is a fkn joke. Hard to swallow that this is what it comes to.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...161d_blog.html

Danzig 08-09-2012 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 881803)
This campaign is a fkn joke. Hard to swallow that this is what it comes to.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...161d_blog.html

oh wow. yeah, at least a little.


' Politico notes that Ranae Soptic died in 2006, long after the plant closed, and CNN adds that at some points during that time she had insurance through her own employer. '

and then there's cobra, that you can carry for 18 months after leaving/losing your job. and it's not as tho you cannot get insurance ON YOUR OWN because you lost group because your job is gone. ridiculous.

Danzig 08-09-2012 10:38 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/o...195237581.html


just saw this, updated story...obama camp denies knowledge, BUT...

Danzig 08-09-2012 10:44 AM

and, then there's this one:


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/r...125146824.html


like i said, they both ignore the real issues, while trying to score by fudging things like the above.

dellinger63 08-09-2012 11:30 AM

Top Donors to Super Pac Responsible
 
Wonder when Obama will return the money. ;)


Top Organizations Disclosing Donations to Priorities USA Action, 2012

Select cycle: 20122010

View ALL Donors



Rank

Occupation/Employer

Total

From Individuals

From Organizations




1

Dreamworks Animation SKG

$2,000,000

$2,000,000

$0



2

Newsweb Corp

$1,500,000

$1,500,000

$0



2

Service Employees International Union

$1,500,000

$0

$1,500,000



4

Franklin L Haney Co

$1,000,000

$1,000,000

$0



4

Landmark Medical Management

$1,000,000

$1,000,000

$0



4

Mostyn Law Firm

$1,000,000

$1,000,000

$0



4

National Air Traffic Controllers Assn

$1,000,000

$0

$1,000,000



4

Solil Management

$1,000,000

$1,000,000

$0



9

Stryker Corp

$750,000

$750,000

$0



10

Perennial Strategy Group

$600,000

$0

$600,000



11

Saban Capital Group

$333,333

$333,333

$0



12

Plumbers/Pipefitters Union

$250,000

$0

$250,000



13

Priorities USA

$215,234

$0

$215,234



14

Jordan Real Estate Investments

$200,000

$200,000

$0



15

Berger & Montague

$175,000

$175,000

$0



16

Abelson Taylor

$100,000

$100,000

$0



16

Ariel Capital Management

$100,000

$100,000

$0



16

BLS Investments

$100,000

$100,000

$0



16

Chelsea Handler Inc

$100,000

$100,000

$0



16

DE Shaw & Co

$100,000

$100,000

$0



16

DreamWorks SKG

$100,000

$100,000

$0



16

Ischemix

$100,000

$100,000

$0



16

Masimo Corp

$100,000

$100,000

$0



16

United Auto Workers

$100,000

$0

$100,000



16

Warland Investments

$100,000

$100,000

$0



26

American Assn for Justice

$50,000

$0

$50,000



26

Bad Robot Productions

$50,000

$50,000

$0



26

Berkshire Group

$50,000

$50,000

$0



26

Consolidated Distribution

$50,000

$0

$50,000



26

King World Productions

$50,000

$50,000

$0



26

McKinsey & Co

$50,000

$50,000

$0



26

MWW Group

$50,000

$0

$50,000



26

Unity 2012

$50,000

$0

$50,000



34

Akerman, Senterfitt & Eidson

$40,000

$40,000

$0



34

Jacobs & Goodman

$40,000

$40,000

$0



36

Thomas Faulkner Architects

$30,000

$30,000

$0



37

Patterson Planning & Services

$25,000

$25,000

$0



38

Cameron Corp

$20,000

$20,000

$0



39

Twin Birches

$18,200

$18,200

$0



40

Boston Provident

$15,000

$15,000

$0



41

Glover Park Group

$10,000

$10,000

$0



41

Locke Lord Bissell & Liddell LLP

$10,000

$0

$10,000



41

Phelps Industries

$10,000

$10,000

$0



44

Schulte, Roth & Zabel

$7,500

$7,500

$0



45

Scientific Data Systems

$6,500

$6,500

$0



46

Elmendorf Ryan

$5,000

$5,000

$0



46

Entergy Corp

$5,000

$5,000

$0



46

Harriscope

$5,000

$5,000

$0



46

JBR Media

$5,000

$5,000

$0



46

Leesfield & Partners

$5,000

$5,000

$0



46

Medimmune Inc

$5,000

$5,000

$0



46

Mehlman Vogel Castagnetti Inc

$5,000

$5,000

$0



46

National Assn of Social Workers

$5,000

$0

$5,000



46

Omnispective Management

$5,000

$5,000

$0



46

Peck, Madigan et al

$5,000

$5,000

$0

Riot 08-09-2012 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 881803)
This campaign is a fkn joke. Hard to swallow that this is what it comes to.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...161d_blog.html

The content of the ad has been superceded by the outrage on the conservative rightwing towards the response of the Romney campaign to this ad, called by the right wing as grossly incompetent, with calls by Coulter to boycott GOP convention, with hold donor money from Romney, fire Romney staff, Eric Erickson says, "day Romney lost election", etc. Limbaugh has gone crazy all yesterday afternoon calling Romney campaign incompetent over response, etc.

This ad, and the Romney campaign response, and the rightwing outrage over the Romney campaign response, has been the major headline story of the past 24 hours, has consumed the right wing conservative blogs, Fox News, Limbaugh, and the airwaves of the left, too, and is the major political story continuing today.

It was the story on 100% of political shows last night and this morning.

See other thread about this from yesterday, http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47850, where Pointman called discussing this major political story a mindless attack nobody cares about.

pointman 08-09-2012 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot (Post 881852)
The content of the ad has been superceded by the outrage on the conservative rightwing towards the response of the Romney campaign to this ad, called by the right wing as grossly incompetent, with calls by Coulter to boycott GOP convention, with hold donor money from Romney, fire Romney staff, Eric Erickson says, "day Romney lost election", etc. Limbaugh has gone crazy all yesterday afternoon calling Romney campaign incompetent over response, etc.

This ad, and the Romney campaign response, and the rightwing outrage over the Romney campaign response, has been the major headline story of the past 24 hours, has consumed the right wing conservative blogs, Fox News, Limbaugh, and the airwaves of the left, too, and is the major political story continuing today.

It was the story on 100% of political shows last night and this morning.

See other thread about this from yesterday, http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47850, where Pointman called discussing this major political story a mindless attack nobody cares about.

Now lets get past Riot's nonsensical attempts to deflect from the facts here and unfairly disparage me and get to the real facts:

* Bain Capital bought GST mill in 1993.

* Romney left Bain in 1999 to run the Salt Lake City Olympics.

* Bain closed the mill in 2001.

* Joe Soptic lost his job, but his wife Renae retained her job and her own health insurance at Saver's Thrift Store.

* Renae loses her job and her own health insurance at Saver's in 2002 after sustaining an injury.

* In 2006, a full 5 years after the steel plant closed, Renae is diagnosed with cancer and passes away soon after.

This ad is a despicable attempt to smear Romney with absolute lies and is supported by the Obama campaign. Obama's attempts to distance himself from it are more lies, Obama is still taking money from this PAC and Soptic is featured in at least three other promos by the campaign.

Obama's continued attempts to throw lies out with the success of the mindless blindly believing them (see Riot) is disgusting.

dellinger63 08-09-2012 03:16 PM

Obama just gave a speech taking no questions. Has said nothing about the false ad or whether he will be returning their money.

I thought he was against Super Pacs?

Or does that just go for the other side

Danzig 08-09-2012 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 881944)
Obama just gave a speech taking no questions. Has said nothing about the false ad or whether he will be returning their money.

I thought he was against Super Pacs?

Or does that just go for the other side

he was against super pacs. but now he's not, since he doesn't want to get left behind on fundraising or on ads.

dellinger63 08-09-2012 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 881951)
he was against super pacs. but now he's not, since he doesn't want to get left behind on fundraising or on ads.

He must be evolving again.

Like when he was against same sex marriage and now supports it.


That or he's just a plain ole hypocrite

Danzig 08-09-2012 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 881954)
He must be evolving again.

Like when he was against same sex marriage and now supports it.


That or he's just a plain ole hypocrite

he's a politician.

when their lips move, they're lying.

Riot 08-09-2012 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 881910)
Now lets get past Riot's nonsensical attempts to deflect from the facts here and unfairly disparage me and get to the real facts:

* Bain Capital bought GST mill in 1993.

* Romney left Bain in 1999 to run the Salt Lake City Olympics.

* Bain closed the mill in 2001.

* Joe Soptic lost his job, but his wife Renae retained her job and her own health insurance at Saver's Thrift Store.

* Renae loses her job and her own health insurance at Saver's in 2002 after sustaining an injury.

* In 2006, a full 5 years after the steel plant closed, Renae is diagnosed with cancer and passes away soon after.

This ad is a despicable attempt to smear Romney with absolute lies and is supported by the Obama campaign. Obama's attempts to distance himself from it are more lies, Obama is still taking money from this PAC and Soptic is featured in at least three other promos by the campaign.

Obama's continued attempts to throw lies out with the success of the mindless blindly believing them (see Riot) is disgusting.

Sorry, seems you've again jumped to a silly wrong conclusion and gone off on one of your childish rants of bitchiness and nastiness over the wrong thing.

I was commenting only on your obvious ignorance of this as a major political story the past 24 hours, as you posted in the other thread.

And as I said to you in the other thread, which you obviously couldn't read, didn't read, or read but was simply unable to understand, I'm with the Romney camp on this one. The ad pushes the edge.

But that story has gotten lost during the right wing implosion of outrage and anger at Romney's staff, unfortunately, and that - the right wing meltdown, the conservative infighting over this, the right attacking Romney - has been the major dominant news story of the past 24 hours.

I pointed out you were, until now, ignorant of that, so your attacking me on bringing the story up only points out your obvious political ignorance. It's kinda funny, you attack me, but your attack shows nothing but your own cluelessness about the situation.

You really need to read a newspaper now and then to keep up.

And, the last three Romney ads were outright lies, saying the opposite of reality, deliberately mis-editing what the President said, and have been called out as such by the media. Another ad was released by Romney camp this am doing the same outright lying.

No outrage over Romney lying here on Derby Trail, unsurprisingly :D

alysheba4 08-09-2012 03:58 PM

riot maybe the mitt people are not responding on purpose.

Riot 08-09-2012 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alysheba4 (Post 881974)
riot maybe the mitt people are not responding on purpose.

No. The Mitt people responded to this ad yesterday morning, on a major news channel.

That goofed-up response (I didn't think it was goofed up) by Mitt's spokesman yesterday AM created the massive outrage of the righties angry at the Mitt people for how they responded.

The entire story yesterday, last night, and this morning, was the crazy righties demanding Mitt fire his spokeswoman who made the comment yesterday morning. Red State, Hannity, Ann Coulture, Fox, Limbaugh spent all day yesterday screaming at the Romney campaign, outraged at what his spokesperson said and demanding she be fired.

Here's the story I posted in the other thread yesterday about the rightie outrage over the "gaffe" http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47850

The left are just sitting there watching the right eat each other and destroy each other over this, with their mouths open in shock. While eating popcorn.

geeker2 08-09-2012 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alysheba4 (Post 881974)
riot maybe the mitt people are not responding on purpose.

It's called IGGY

dellinger63 08-09-2012 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 882107)
It's called IGGY

:tro::tro::tro:

She is like the center of the melanoma mole America is suffering from!

geeker2 08-09-2012 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 882131)
:tro::tro::tro:

She is like the center of the melanoma mole America is suffering from!

I laughed

pointman 08-09-2012 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 882140)
I laughed

I have to admit that I did as well.


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