Derby Trail Forums

Derby Trail Forums (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/index.php)
-   The Steve Dellinger Discourse Den (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=4)
-   -   Obamacare's Secret History (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47128)

ArlJim78 06-12-2012 07:39 PM

Obamacare's Secret History
 
How a Pfizer CEO and Big Pharma colluded with the White House at the public's expense..

these are the same people who are always whining about corporate money in politics. it turns out that they are just fine with corporate money and will collude with corporations if it suits their agenda.

the gory details are at the link from the WSJ.

Quote:

On Friday House Republicans released more documents that expose the collusion between the health-care industry and the White House that produced ObamaCare, and what a story of crony capitalism it is. If the trove of emails proves anything, it's that the Tea Party isn't angry enough.

Over the last year, the Energy and Commerce Committee has taken Nancy Pelosi's advice to see what's in the Affordable Care Act and how it passed. The White House refused to cooperate beyond printing out old press releases, but a dozen trade groups turned over thousands of emails and other files. A particular focus is the drug lobby, President Obama's most loyal corporate ally in 2009 and 2010.

The business refrain in those days was that if you're not at the table, you're on the menu. But it turns out Big Pharma was also serving as head chef, maître d'hotel and dishwasher. Though some parts of the story have been reported before, the emails make clear that ObamaCare might never have passed without the drug companies. Thank you, Pfizer

Riot 06-12-2012 08:16 PM

Well, not really a secret, because that Big Pharma, etc. were involved came out back when they were working on various health care reforms in 2009. Of course the insurance company and pharmaceutical lobbyists were part of the healthcare discussions. Progressives were mad, back in 2009, that lobbyists were talking to the White House re: healthcare reforms.

Obamacare is a pure Republican plan, created in the 1990's, as a response alternative to Democratic Clinton attempts for single payer, by the Heritage Foundation in association with the insurance and pharmaceutical companies. In fact, the ideal of the "individual mandate" is a pure insurance company request, to get them more customers.

That's why liberals and progressives think so little of Obamacare. Alot of it still helps insurance companies.

But it's funny to watch the GOP pretend Obamacare has nothing to do with them.

Rudeboyelvis 06-12-2012 08:42 PM

It's equally funny to watch libtards completely derail the discussion regarding corporate collusion with the criminal in chief away from the topic at hand into healthcare.
Truth is Obama has never seen a dollar bill he didn't like - including the 7500 of them he gleefully took from Bain, then out of the other side of his mouth bashed them, THEN had the complete lack of conscience, morality, and simple humanity in judgement to return the money.

But then again, hypocrisy has been a running theme with this creep for as long as he's inhabited the White House

[/Obama Derangement Syndrome] errr... Reality

Riot 06-12-2012 08:46 PM

OH MY GOD! THERE ARE HEALTHCARE LOBBYISTS IN WASHINGTON!

AND THEY HAD THEIR FINGERS IN THE HEALTHCARE LAW DISCUSSION ... WITH THE WHITE HOUSE!

News at 11:00 .... in 2009.

Riot 06-12-2012 09:05 PM

"Secret"??? Only if your head was in the dark for several years
 
Secret? LOL - hardly. It was in the news at the time.

Oh - and here it is in Jonathan Alter's non-fiction book about the first year of the Obama administration:

"Part of the deal was that the industry would pay for the media to build public support for the plan" ... etc., etc. with several pages of the deep, dark "secret" details as outlined above.

(two pages of detail about Pfizer, Big Pharma involvement in the creation of the Affordable Care Act, p. 251-253, "The Promise - President Obama, Year One" by Jonathan Alter published 2010.

Quote:

On Friday House Republicans released more documents that expose the collusion between the health-care industry and the White House that produced ObamaCare, and what a story of crony capitalism it is.
Well, thank goodness House Republicans are finally catching up to reading the news!

Clip-Clop 06-13-2012 10:33 AM

So aside from the obvious deflections, does this fall under hope, change or transparency?

The cornerstones of the greatest marketing machine ever made.

jms62 06-13-2012 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 868481)
So aside from the obvious deflections, does this fall under hope, change or transparency?

The cornerstones of the greatest marketing machine ever made.

After Dick Cheney's presidency I bought the transparency thing hook line and sinker.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:35 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.