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Riot 06-06-2012 11:40 AM

Florida Governor to fight Department of Justice on voter purges
 
And in another state, as the Republican governor of Florida, the Medicare-thief Gov. Rick Scott follows his ALEC-plan orders to purge non-whites from the voter rolls before the fall election ...

With all the current attacks on women's rights and non-whites, it just makes you think it's the 1950's all over again in the GOP :tro:

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The Miami Herald is reporting that Florida Gov. Rick Scott will fight the Justice Department for his illegal voter purge. While the move to purge thousands, perhaps tens of thousands, of voters from the rolls violates two voting rights laws, the state is defiant.

Justice has notified the state that it is in violation of both the National Voter Registration Act and the Voting Rights Act. The Voter Registration Act does instruct states to maintain clean voter rolls, but prohibits purging voters in the 90-day window before a federal election. The state's primary is in August, so they've missed that deadline. In addition, under the Voting Rights Act, the state is required to get preclearance for any changes to voting law from the federal government, because of the long history of racial discrimination in voting in five counties.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/06/0...ars-ready.html
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If there were any lingering questions that Rick Scott's motivation for purging voters,this should put it to rest. Former Secretary of State, Kurt Browning, who worked with Scott on cooking up with purge (and no stranger to voter suppression, having kicked minority and Democratic voters off the lists in 2008) has close ties to an astroturf group funded by, you guessed, it, David and Charles Koch. The guys who have committed hundreds of millions to defeat Barack Obama in November.

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Just before Browning was selected in 2011 by Scott as Secretary of State, Browning led a group called “Protect Your Vote Inc,” which was set up to oppose fair redistricting. One of the biggest checks to Browning’s organization came from the Center to Protect Patients’ Rights, which gave $100,000 in 2010. At the time of the donation, the source of the money was shrouded in secrecy. [...]

But as Republic Report exclusively reported last month, the Center to Protect Patients’ Rights is part of a universe of front groups financed by David and Charles Koch, the petrochemical billionaires, as well as several other billionaires, as part of an election-influencing effort. New reports this week about the brothers’ strategy indicate that they will now use this constellation of front groups to finance $400 million of a $1 billion campaign in outside money to defeat President Obama and congressional Democrats. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Mitt Romney’s Super PAC, and several nonprofits controlled by Karl Rove, will furnish the other $600 million.


Rudeboyelvis 06-06-2012 02:15 PM

The DOJ has a vested interest in squelching any attempt to rid the state of illegals voting.

That's Community Organizing 101 at Harvard.

Get as many votes by any means necessary, regardless of how unethical it may be. ACORN was his baby, wasn't it?

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...stanley-kurtz#

Illegally register ex-cons and then pull buses into the ghetto with cartons of Newports aboard, use the same buses to go out into the fields and promise a hot meal to any alien field worker that got illegally registered to vote, by the same crowd.. etc.

So, the Governor of FL thinks that's a bad idea and want's to fix it, and you have a problem with that?

Wow.

Riot 06-06-2012 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 866455)
The DOJ has a vested interest in squelching any attempt to rid the state of illegals voting.

That's Community Organizing 101 at Harvard.

Get as many votes by any means necessary, regardless of how unethical it may be. ACORN was his baby, wasn't it?

ACORN was a hysterical wet dream of the right. All ACORN did was register voters. Seems all the nasty lies about ACORN, that resulted in the defunding, were just ... lies. And no, ACORN was not "Obama's baby".

If you still believe the gullible "hate the black guy" made-up and long-disproven crap from 2008, that's your problem.

And your completely ridiculous made-up scenario about buses, illegal aliens comprised of field workers, and cartons of Newports as vote buys has nothing at all to do with Scott illegally stripping registered voters off the voting roles.

Rudeboyelvis 06-06-2012 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 866458)
And your completely documented scenario about buses, illegal aliens comprised of field workers, and cartons of Newports as vote buys has everything to do with Scott judiciously stripping illegally registered voters off the voting roles.

Much better.

Riot 06-06-2012 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 866472)
Much better.

But it's not true, is it?

No governor can remove your voting rights. People didn't die in vain for this basic American right. It didn't work for George Wallace, and it won't work for Rick Scott.

Scott is stripping people off the roles - using arbitrary discriminatory indicators such as race, voting party, address - then demanding they prove they are citizens to get back on. That's illegal. They are already legally registered voters.

He is doing it within 60 days of an election. That is also illegal.

The Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Acts were passed in 1964 and 1965, and they still stand as the law of this country. No matter how much somebody hates brown people.

Rudeboyelvis 06-06-2012 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 866473)
But it's not true, is it?

No governor can remove your voting rights. People didn't die in vain for this basic American right. It didn't work for George Wallace, and it won't work for Rick Scott.

Completely

Ocala Mike 06-06-2012 02:46 PM

The sad fact, especially in this state, is that universal suffrage is anathema to a certain political party. Their perfect world would be restricting voting to white male property-owners between the ages of 45-70 with a net worth of seven figures or more. ID not required; just tell them you're a good ol' boy.

Rudeboyelvis 06-06-2012 02:47 PM

Riot - The only reason you are all of a sudden so passionate is because you know there are tens of thousands of "registered" voters down here that are illegal - either they are not citizens, or they are ex cons and thus have conceded that privilege.... And you also know every single, solitary one of them is without question or qualification, an illegal vote for Obama. And you have no problem with it. That's it. Don't lie.

It's hilarious to watch you try and wrap yourself up in the constitution after you expended countless posts defending your boyfriend's abolishment of it.

It's great. Good for you ;)

Riot 06-06-2012 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocala Mike (Post 866477)
The sad fact, especially in this state, is that universal suffrage is anathema to a certain political party. Their perfect world would be restricting voting to white male property-owners between the ages of 45-70 with a net worth of seven figures or more. ID not required; just tell them you're a good ol' boy.

They are in a panic, they know the oncoming demographic changes. This is the first year that "white" isn't the number one color of newborn American babies, and they are freaking out.

It's pathetic, racist and sad.

dellinger63 06-06-2012 02:51 PM

How about no representation without taxation?

Riot 06-06-2012 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 866480)
Riot - The only reason you are all of a sudden so passionate is because you know there are tens of thousands of "registered" voters down here that are illegal - either they are not citizens, or the are ex cons and thus have conceded that privilege.... And you also know every single, solitary one of them is without question or qualification, an illegal vote for Obama. And you have no problem with it. That's it. Don't lie.

It's hilarious to watch you try and wrap yourself up in the constitution after you expended countless posts defending your boyfriend's abolishment of it.

It's great. Good for you ;)

Who are you yammering on to? Me? No. Felons on paper cannot vote. Felons off paper can vote. Illegals cannot and should not be able to vote. American citizens - even if they are a color you don't like - can vote.

And no, I've not defended Obama for what he's done to the Constitution, in fact much the opposite.

I'm sure your gross generalized assumptions serve you well with knowing "who to hate" in the simplistic, black-and-white world you live within, but don't confuse your rambling imaginings for accurate fact.

Riot 06-06-2012 03:06 PM

Florida Gov. Rick Scott has created a list of more than 180,000 registered voters who must now prove their citizenship, or lose their right to vote.

Scott used a Department of Motor Vehicles database to identify groups of voters he wants to purge from voting records, if they cannot provide proof of citizenship within 30 days of receipt of a letter from the state.

However, many of those being told they may be ineligible to vote, are citizens who have been voting legally for decades.

A 91-year-old veteran, Bill Internicola, was among the first group of 2,600 Florida voters who received letters saying that they needed to prove they were American citizens, or be purged from the voting rolls.

The Brooklyn-born, decorated World War II veteran, appeared on MSNBC on Tuesday and called the letter, “insulting.”

Internicola, a registered Democrat, said he had been voting since he was 18 years old, and had been voting as a Florida resident for the past 15 years.

“The list of "ineligible" voters is riddled with errors and includes hundreds of eligible U.S. citizens." According to Think Progress, “Scott’s list is heavily targeted at Democratic and Hispanic voters.”

Voters who fail to respond in the 30 day time period will be removed from registration forms and refused the right to vote.

“Already, 359 people on the list have provided the county with proof of citizenship and 26 people were identified as U.S. citizens directly by the county.

The remaining 1,200 have simply not responded to the letter informing them of their purported ineligibility.”

This is not the first time Florida has been the center of questionable voting practices. Before the 2000 Presidential Elections, Florida took more than 7,000 names off the voting rolls, mostly Democrats, and George W. Bush won the state by fewer than 600 votes.

Scott has been at the helm of additional voter suppression efforts. Earlier this year, the Florida governor signed a new voter ID law that requires photo identification for all voters. Early voting, which made it easier for veterans and the elderly to cast their ballots, was also cut from 14 days to 7 days.

Riot 06-07-2012 02:42 PM

Now news talk is that Scott is purposely trying to induce a major crisis, a confrontation, as Wallace did in the feds in the 1960's. Also suspected he's simply trying to intimidate all voters of color.

County clerks in Florida are refusing to follow Scott's instructions for purging voter rolls, as it would be them breaking the actual law, and risking contempt or arrest.

Have the GOP-ALEC-RGA simply gone crazy?

Riot 06-07-2012 04:40 PM

Just more Koch Brothers billionaire election-buying nonsense
 
Florida Official Behind Gov. Rick Scott’s Voter Purge Linked To $1 Billion Campaign Effort Against Obama

By Lee Fang posted Jun 4th 2012 at 8:00AM

On Thursday, the U.S. Department of Justice asked officials in Florida to suspend the controversial voter purge conducted by Gov. Rick Scott’s (R) administration, citing possible violations of voting rights law.

Florida officials had been purging a list of suspected non-citizen voters, estimated at one point to include at least 180,000 people, despite evidence that the list is riddled with errors.

Hundreds of targeted voters are in fact American citizens. As ThinkProgress and the Miami Herald have reported, a great deal of the individuals also happen to be Hispanics and Democratic-leaning voters, suggesting the effort is deeply partisan.

The plan for the purge, according to a story from the Associated Press, was initiated last year by then-Secretary of State Kurt Browning after a meeting with the governor. Browning said he was motivated by a “Spidey sense tingling” to undergo a massive project to develop the list now being used to send letters to registered Florida voters informing them that they have been flagged as non-citizens.

Although both Gov. Scott and Browning have downplayed accusations that the purge is political, a donation from a secret money group may fuel growing suspicions that the effort is partisan.

Just before Browning was selected in 2011 by Scott as Secretary of State, Browning led a group called “Protect Your Vote Inc,” which was set up to oppose fair redistricting. One of the biggest checks to Browning’s organization came from the Center to Protect Patients’ Rights, which gave $100,000 in 2010. At the time of the donation, the source of the money was shrouded in secrecy.

But as Republic Report exclusively reported last month, the Center to Protect Patients’ Rights is part of a universe of front groups financed by David and Charles Koch, the petrochemical billionaires, as well as several other billionaires, as part of an election-influencing effort.

New reports this week about the brothers’ strategy indicate that they will now use this constellation of front groups to finance $400 million of a $1 billion campaign in outside money to defeat President Obama and congressional Democrats.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce, Mitt Romney’s Super PAC, and several nonprofits controlled by Karl Rove, will furnish the other $600 million.

Browning, who resigned as Secretary of State late last year, also relied heavily on funds from the Republican Party of Florida and the Florida Chamber of Commerce, a big business lobbying group, to support his Protect Your Vote organization, which ultimately failed in blocking redistricting reform. Browning is currently pursuing a bid for local office.

Update: The Florida Independent and the Brennan Center note that Browning orchestrated a controversial voter purge only weeks before the general election in 2008.

Rudeboyelvis 06-08-2012 03:33 PM

Maybe the WI Police Union should have learned a thing or two..
 
Criminal Thugs taking a page out of Obama's ACORN play book:

One way to avoid a de-certification vote; stuff the box with phony ballots collected by felons

http://washingtonexaminer.com/local/...natures-ballot

>>>Montgomery County's police union used felons, including a fugitive and a man convicted of forgery, to collect signatures for a ballot measure that would kill legislation reducing police collective bargaining rights, court documents show.

The county cites the Fraternal Order of Police's use of felons among reasons why at least 6,700 of the 34,828 signatures validated by the County Board of Elections are insufficient to put the measure, protecting police officers' ability to negotiate any management decision, on the November ballot.

The felons were responsible for collecting signatures and certifying they were gathered legally.<<<


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