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Rupert Pupkin 05-17-2012 09:16 PM

Obama Bio Said He Was Born in Kenya
 
Don't shoot the messenger. I'm just reporting the story. Obama's literary agent published a booklet that included a biography of Obama. It read:

"Barack Obama, the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review, was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii. The son of an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister, he attended Columbia University and worked as a financial journalist and editor for Business International Corporation."

Now, of course the Obama literary agent who published the booklet back in 1991, claims that the part about him being born in Kenya was a mistake. If it was a mistake, Obama would have obviously had them correct it. I always try to be open-minded about these things. The only possible argument I can come up with to explain this (assuming that Obama was really born in Hawaii) is that at the time(1991), Obama thought it would look good to claim he was born in Kenya.


http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ti...o-be-a-kenyan/

http://www.drudgereport.com/

DaTruth 05-17-2012 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 861691)
Don't shoot the messenger. I'm just reporting the story. Obama's literary agent published a booklet that included a biography of Obama. It read:

"Barack Obama, the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review, was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii. The son of an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister, he attended Columbia University and worked as a financial journalist and editor for Business International Corporation."

Now, of course the Obama literary agent who published the booklet back in 1991, claims that the part about him being born in Kenya was a mistake. If it was a mistake, Obama would have obviously had them correct it. I always try to be open-minded about these things. The only possible argument I can come up with to explain this (assuming that Obama was really born in Hawaii) is that at the time(1991), Obama thought it would look good to claim he was born in Kenya.


http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ti...o-be-a-kenyan/

http://www.drudgereport.com/

What led the literary agent to mistakenly believe that Obama had been born in Kenya?

Rupert Pupkin 05-17-2012 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth (Post 861704)
What led the literary agent to mistakenly believe that Obama had been born in Kenya?

That is the whole point. Obama obviously told the literary agent he was born in Kenya. The literary agent didn't come up with it out of thin air. Assuming Obama was born in Hawaii, maybe Obama thought it would make his story more interesting if he claimed he was from Kenya. That is the only half-way credible argument I can come up with to explain why the literary agent wrote this, if in fact Obama is truly from Hawaii.

I think this story is a smoking gun. However, I don't even know if anyone will care at this point. I think people from both sides are going to believe what they want to believe, regardless of the evidence.

Riot 05-18-2012 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 861706)
That is the whole point. Obama obviously told the literary agent he was born in Kenya. The literary agent didn't come up with it out of thin air. Assuming Obama was born in Hawaii, maybe Obama thought it would make his story more interesting if he claimed he was from Kenya. That is the only half-way credible argument I can come up with to explain why the literary agent wrote this, if in fact Obama is truly from Hawaii.
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Or ... this fully-credible argument. Why would Obama not correct it? He'd never see it. It was an in-industry thing.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/20...a_mistake.html


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May 17, 2012

Breitbart News reports on a promotional booklet produced in 1991 by Barack Obama's then-literary agency which describes the author as "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."

Miriam Goderich issued the following statement to Political Wire:

"You're undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me -- an agency assistant at the time. There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."

Full disclosure: I am a client of the same literary agency.
The President is still black. Many Americans are still really pissed about that.

Note: Drudge knew that the story was false but put this out anyway, with Rush's endorsement. What sleaze.

Yes. Barack Obama was born in Kenya. Barack Obama Senior. How could this mistake possibly have been made? Why, mistakes are never made in industry promotional materials ....

But of course, the logical thing to freak about, would not be that Mitt Romney was born in Mexico, but that Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

Rupert Pupkin 05-18-2012 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 861726)
Or ... this fully-credible argument. Why would Obama not correct it? He'd never see it. It was an in-industry thing.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/20...a_mistake.html




The President is still black. Many Americans are still really pissed about that.

Note: Drudge knew that the story was false but put this out anyway, with Rush's endorsement. What sleaze.

Yes. Barack Obama was born in Kenya. Barack Obama Senior. How could this mistake possibly have been made? Why, mistakes are never made in industry promotional materials ....

But of course, the logical thing to freak about, would not be that Mitt Romney was born in Mexico, but that Barack Obama was born in Kenya.

What do you mean he knew the story was false? The story is not false. The story is true. The story doesn't prove Obama was born in Kenya but it does prove that the literary agent wrote that Obama was born in Kenya in the bio.

As I said before, people from both sides are going to believe what they want to believe. By the way, the literary agent never claimed that she was thinking about Obama's father. She simply claimed that she made a mistake. Is it possible that she simply made a mistake? Sure it possible but it is not likely.

By the way, you have no evidence that Obama never saw it. To say it would have been unlikely that Obama never saw it would be an understatement. If you write a book and you have a literary agent that you are paying money to, you don't think the literary agent is going to send you the promotional booklet that she is sending out on your book? That is extremely far-fetched.

Riot 05-18-2012 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 861728)
What do you mean he knew the story was false? The story is not false. The story is true.

I'll rephrase: He knew the story had already been explained as the obvious mistake it was. He knew the truth. But he published it anyway. Because apparently all the right-wing loons have this election cycle to feed the Obama hate is recycling Rev. Wright and trying to re-light birtherism?

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As I said before, people from both sides are going to believe what they want to believe.
Yet there sits the certified, verified, beyond-a-doubt birth certificate. There sits two newspaper publications of the birth.

Those documents from the past are discarded, ignored and great lengths (and conspiracies) are created to explain that reality away, while the explanation of a mistake in a promotional pamphlet is denied as coverup.

Good lord. Birtherism is a more ridiculous, lunatic conspiracy theory than the moon landings never happened. Talk about having to create unbelievable gyrations and denial of reality in order to believe it. My god. This country is a laughingstock overseas with "birthers".

Rupert Pupkin 05-18-2012 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 861733)
I'll rephrase: He knew the story had already been explained as the obvious mistake it was. He knew the truth. But he published it anyway. Because apparently all the right-wing loons have this election cycle to feed the Obama hate is recycling Rev. Wright and trying to re-light birtherism?



Yet there sits the certified, verified, beyond-a-doubt birth certificate. There sits two newspaper publications of the birth.

Those documents from the past are discarded, ignored and great lengths (and conspiracies) are created to explain that reality away, while the explanation of a mistake in a promotional pamphlet is denied as coverup.

Good lord. Birtherism is a more ridiculous, lunatic conspiracy theory than the moon landings never happened. Talk about having to create unbelievable gyrations and denial of reality in order to believe it. My god. This country is a laughingstock overseas with "birthers".

His birth certificate has been certified, verified, beyond a doubt? There is tons of evidence to the contrary.

What did Obama's own lawyer Alexandra Hill say about the authenticity of the birth certificate?

You probably never thought that Rev. Wright was a legitimate issue. I don't understand that because if a republican was running for President and it came out that his pastor was constantly preaching anti-black sermons, you would think that was a huge deal.

Coach Pants 05-18-2012 07:39 AM

Whether he's American or not...it's painfully obvious his past has been manipulated to create suspicion...and possibly revolution.

Don't put anything past Bill Ayers. He's a Russian sympathizer.

OldDog 05-18-2012 08:07 AM

"There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii."

So, why did they write that he was? I'm not saying that Obama was born in Kenya, but why did they say it?

GenuineRisk 05-18-2012 02:52 PM

Shorter this thread: black black blackity black black black.

Riot 05-18-2012 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 861915)
Shorter this thread: black black blackity black black black.

:tro:

Coach Pants 05-18-2012 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 861915)
Shorter this thread: black black blackity black black black.

You're a race baiting idiot. You're what's wrong with this country.

Riot 05-18-2012 04:01 PM

Unbelievable, pre-meditated-for-years-planned conspiracy theory:




Smoking Gun Of OMG Truth!




Good reading


Coach Pants 05-18-2012 04:04 PM

It's racist to be a true journalist and report stuff.

Whatever slaves. Typical apologist middle class hippies who are intellectually bankrupt and obedient to their socialist masters.

Hang a Russian flag outside instead, tards.

Coach Pants 05-18-2012 04:09 PM

Breitbart - dead
His coroner - dead

Obama - Kenyan/American? Rev. Wright, Ayers, Soros, bowing down to Putin, NDAA, EO giving us the right to confiscate Yemini property on American soil.

Yeah we're racist. That's the reason he's being vetted. :rolleyes:

Disinfo liberal trolls. Anti-American scum.

Rupert Pupkin 05-18-2012 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 861759)
"There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii."

So, why did they write that he was? I'm not saying that Obama was born in Kenya, but why did they say it?

That is exactly why I'm saying that I don't believe that woman's story of what happened. As you said, if she was never told that Obama was born in Kenya, then why would she have written that? She's not going to write that out of thin air. In addition, she claims she was the one who wrote it and that she was an intern at the time. Wouldn't her bosses have noticed the mistake?

I don't buy it. I don't believe it was a mistake. She was obviously told that Obama was born in Kenya. Now it is possible that they decided to claim he was born in Kenya to make the story sound more compelling. I think that is more likely than the woman just making a mistake. You couldn't make a mistake like that. You are given the details about a person and you copy them down in the bio. You don't just make these up off the top off your head.

Riot 05-18-2012 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 861739)
You probably never thought that Rev. Wright was a legitimate issue. I don't understand that because if a republican was running for President and it came out that his pastor was constantly preaching anti-black sermons, you would think that was a huge deal.

You mean like Mitt Romney and Robert Jeffress and Jeffress' constant preaching hate speech? Yeah, you'd think that would be a big deal to some.

Well, except those who don't hold a man responsible for the lunatic ravings of his preachers.

IOKIYAR :tro:

Coach Pants 05-18-2012 04:16 PM

There are no mistakes at that level. For a booklet they spent over $30,000 to produce.

You don't blindly stumble into the Presidency of the United States without a shadow being by your side. To think otherwise is foolish and for people who claim racism when their loved one is under attack.

The sheeple.

Coach Pants 05-18-2012 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 861978)
You mean like Mitt Romney and Robert Jeffress and Jeffress' constant preaching hate speech? Yeah, you'd think that would be a big deal to some.

Well, except those who don't hold a man responsible for the lunatic ravings of his preachers.

IOKIYAR :tro:

They're just as crazy. This thread is about the current President, however. Please, for once, stay focused. I know it's tough. You don't like being wrong.

Riot 05-18-2012 04:21 PM



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