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randallscott35 09-18-2006 08:25 PM

How Many Jocks Make a Mil?
 
How many would you guess pull down a million or more in a year?

DiscreetCat=Monster 09-18-2006 08:30 PM

I would bet a bunch of those little guys pockets are fat!

timmgirvan 09-18-2006 08:34 PM

5 or 6 max...I would guess. Prado,Gomez,JJ Velasquez,PVal, maybe a couple more!

timmgirvan 09-18-2006 08:40 PM

You thinks there's that many?? What do they get, 80-100 bucks a race plus 10% of winnings....that's a lot of riding!

randallscott35 09-18-2006 08:45 PM

I would say 25. In the U.S. alone.

DiscreetCat=Monster 09-18-2006 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
You thinks there's that many?? What do they get, 80-100 bucks a race plus 10% of winnings....that's a lot of riding!

$80-$100 thats it, man that seems really risky to ride a 1500lb animal, 40mph

Thunder Gulch 09-18-2006 09:01 PM

It's really not that much when you consider how much the top 1% of any billion dollar industry make. Factor in the risks, and they aren't paid enough.

randallscott35 09-18-2006 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch
It's really not that much when you consider how much the top 1% of any billion dollar industry make. Factor in the risks, and they aren't paid enough.

Very true and consider the low end guys are making peanuts and are on horses that are more likely to break down.

Round Pen 09-18-2006 09:06 PM

Don't forget the Jock's agent he has to get paid too that in itself will keep several of the jocks from earning 1 million this year

slotdirt 09-19-2006 08:47 AM

That $80-100 number depends on the track as well. I'd guess it's actually lower in some places, perhaps higher in others.

Gander 09-19-2006 08:56 AM

Definetely add JJ Castellano to this list. He rides Bernardini and Pine Island. Enough said. Thats potentially half a million right there.

cakes44 09-19-2006 12:48 PM

I thought it was actually 10% for a 1st place ride and something like 5% for place and show.

kentuckyrosesinmay 09-19-2006 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44
I thought it was actually 10% for a 1st place ride and something like 5% for place and show.

Yeah, that is right. On average, a jockey will make about 7% of their horses' earnings.

jballscalls 09-19-2006 01:34 PM

and the agent usually gets 25 percent of what they make, so factor that in as well. Not to mention they tip out their jock Valet.

kentuckyrosesinmay 09-19-2006 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jballscalls
and the agent usually gets 25 percent of what they make, so factor that in as well. Not to mention they tip out their jock Valet.

Yeah, but they also get paid on for riding the mounts that they don't win any money on. This isn't included in the 7% that I stated earlier, so they actually make quite a bit more than the horses actual earnings. I wonder how much money Jerry Bailey made the year that his horses earned 23,000,000? If you factor all these things in that everyone has stated in this thread, it would be very hard to come up with a number!

DiscreetCat=Monster 09-19-2006 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jballscalls
and the agent usually gets 25 percent of what they make, so factor that in as well. Not to mention they tip out their jock Valet.

and the clerk of scales, i remember the drama a few years back over that:D

oracle80 09-19-2006 05:12 PM

Guys I'd day one or two, maybe 3-5 in a good year.
Just take 10% of their mounts earnings(its a very good rough estimate) and then deduct 25% of that. The agents are employees of the jocks and thats the usual cut.
So a jock has to have his mounts earn about 13.5 million to clear a mill(1, 350,000 dollars million minus 307,500 dollars to agent).

You guys are way off, maybe 4-5 riders will make that this year.


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