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wac 05-05-2012 08:51 PM
Now that the race is over.....?'s
 
No sour grapes here i didn't bet a race all day new baby=no money but i did have several ?'s about the race

1) does union rags have a new jockey next race?
2) take charge indy dam sire dehere i know that take charge lady was an awesome horse but with dehere in there isn't kind of a sprinty predigree? I really have no idea but seriously doubted this horse would make any noise today but couldnt talk my dad out of betting on him
3) will bode go to preakness?
4) has a horse ever set fractions in the KD like bode and still finish that well?
5) wth happen to gemologist? he was one of my A's and did nothing
6)alredy people saying watch went the day well at Bel but is he bred to go that far? im not that found of proud citizen as a sire but what do i know.
7) Who do you all think moves on to Preakness?

Hope you guys did well today.

slotdirt 05-05-2012 08:58 PM
I was thinking that a change in riders might not be a bad thing for Union Rags. Leparoux and he just don't seem to mesh right now.

RockHardTen1985 05-05-2012 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by wac (Post 858758)
No sour grapes here i didn't bet a race all day new baby=no money but i did have several ?'s about the race

1) does union rags have a new jockey next race?
2) take charge indy dam sire dehere i know that take charge lady was an awesome horse but with dehere in there isn't kind of a sprinty predigree? I really have no idea but seriously doubted this horse would make any noise today but couldnt talk my dad out of betting on him
3) will bode go to preakness?
4) has a horse ever set fractions in the KD like bode and still finish that well?
5) wth happen to gemologist? he was one of my A's and did nothing
6)alredy people saying watch went the day well at Bel but is he bred to go that far? im not that found of proud citizen as a sire but what do i know.
7) Who do you all think moves on to Preakness?

Hope you guys did well today.

I would think Bode might have a new jockey.

tanner12oz 05-07-2012 09:40 AM
didnt looking at lucky find trouble in every race...came to preakness...switched jocks and it was winner winner chicken dinner?

Revidere 05-07-2012 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by wac (Post 858758)
No sour grapes here i didn't bet a race all day new baby=no money but i did have several ?'s about the race

1) does union rags have a new jockey next race?
Don't even think that's a question.
2) take charge indy dam sire dehere i know that take charge lady was an awesome horse but with dehere in there isn't kind of a sprinty predigree? I really have no idea but seriously doubted this horse would make any noise today but couldnt talk my dad out of betting on him
3) will bode go to preakness?
If he does he will be the favorite
4) has a horse ever set fractions in the KD like bode and still finish that well?
Bold Forbes and Spend A Buck both won after a half in 45 4/5
5) wth happen to gemologist? he was one of my A's and did nothing
6)alredy people saying watch went the day well at Bel but is he bred to go that far? im not that found of proud citizen as a sire but what do i know.
He came back with some cuts, but I don't know if he will miss any training.
7) Who do you all think moves on to Preakness? Lukas

Hope you guys did well today.
Tried to answer most if not all of your questions.

slotdirt 05-07-2012 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by tanner12oz (Post 859102)
didnt looking at lucky find trouble in every race...came to preakness...switched jocks and it was winner winner chicken dinner?
Exactly what I was thinking, and Rags PP's aren't dissimilar to Lookin at Lucky at a similar point in his career.

FATPIANO 05-07-2012 02:06 PM
I also would love to know wtf happened to Gemologist...........thought he would win this with ease

jms62 05-07-2012 02:35 PM
My question is why was Trinnieberg even entered in the race if he wasn't going to gun and get the lead. The only chance he had (remote) is if he gunned it opened a huge lead and the other jocks fell asleep like they did in the Woodford. Seems like a huge waste of a race for him.

Rudeboyelvis 05-07-2012 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by FATPIANO (Post 859150)
I also would love to know wtf happened to Gemologist...........thought he would win this with ease
Did Pletcher win a race all weekend there? It seemed as though every one of his charges came out flat - I'm still shocked and amazed how Broadway Alibi got caught in the Oaks, Bridgetown runs a non-effort in the TS turf sprint, Doubles Partner, though not getting the expected set up seemed dull in defeat, and of course Gem & Padrino not even lifting a hoof.... Rough weekend

Danzig 05-07-2012 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 859158)
My question is why was Trinnieberg even entered in the race if he wasn't going to gun and get the lead. The only chance he had (remote) is if he gunned it opened a huge lead and the other jocks fell asleep like they did in the Woodford. Seems like a huge waste of a race for him.
his moron owner said these last couple weeks that they were 'teaching the colt to rate'. now, i don't know if they just managed to slow him down enough so that he wouldn't have a say in the only part of the race he might possibly shine, or if he just wasn't fast enough to keep up with bodemeister.

slotdirt 05-07-2012 03:28 PM
I think the Trinniberg folks thought that if they went all Tim Ritchey-like and galloped the horse for a couple miles every morning that they could train stamina into him. In that respect, most of the 10f Trinniberg traveled on Saturday was probably great training for the horse.

Danzig 05-07-2012 03:32 PM
t'bergs owner and trainer need to look at bodemeisters race. baffert knew better than to mess with the horse, that the derby is no time to play around or try something new or different. he let the horse keep with what the horse does best, and damn near won it all.
trinniberg? not even close. stupid, stupid, stupid.

Thunder Gulch 05-07-2012 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by slotdirt (Post 859108)
Exactly what I was thinking, and Rags PP's aren't dissimilar to Lookin at Lucky at a similar point in his career.
I think he's more Dollar Bill than LAL. Still good enough to impact some, but he's not the best of this crop after likely being the best 2yo.

richard burch 05-08-2012 09:42 PM
was this troubling to anyone?

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/mo...icle-1.1074154

Danzig 05-08-2012 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by richard burch (Post 859382)
the problem is, it won't trouble some owners looking for a trainer who isn't afraid to cheat. when certain trainers get stiff suspensions, they get horses of the year sent to them...owner/lawyers defend them.

third overage in cali, fourth in his career. he's bound to get more horses now.

Rudeboyelvis 05-09-2012 06:23 AM
>>>ONeill’s first TCO2 violation came on May 27, 2006, when a horse named Wisdom Cat finished out of the money in the seventh race at Hollywood Park.


ONeill then had a TCO2 violation at Hawthorne Race Course in Illinois, after the horse Stephens Got Hope finished seventh in the seventh race on April 3, 2010.


Currently, he has another TCO2 violation pending in California when blood from the horse Argenta contained 39.4 millimoles per liter of TCO2 before finishing eighth in the sixth race at Del Mar on Aug. 25, 2010.<<<


He's clearly not doing it right


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