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Calzone Lord 04-28-2012 08:13 AM

Browns are hitting this draft out of the park
 
I really love what the Browns have done so far this draft.

1st pick: They gave up a 4th, 5th, and 7th round draft pick to move up one spot so they could secure a running back in a pass first league.

2nd pick of 1st round: They took a QB who is 28.75 years old.

2nd round pick: This was a top five 2nd round pick (#37 overall) and the Brownies went out and got themselves the top Jew in the entire draft. They got a tackle name Schwartz from Cal.

3rd round pick: They went out and got the second best defensive tackle from the Cinncinnati Bearcats squad. Yes, you heard that right, the Denver Broncos took the top rated Bearcat DT with the #36 overall pick in the 2nd round. Cleveland got the lower rated one in the 3rd round.

If you're a fan of wasting 3 picks to move up one spot, or drafting QB's in the first round who are on the verge of collecting social security, or taking the highest rated Jew on the draft board, or taking the 2nd best DT on the Cinncy Bearcats roster ... you have to love what the Brownies have done so far this draft.

And way to show confidence in the punting game and not draft a punter #70 overall in the 3rd round like the Jaguars did. I'm sure the Browns have the second best punter in this draft lined up for their 4th round pick.

Alabama Stakes 04-28-2012 08:32 AM

mistake on the lake
 
did the Browns hire Matt Millen to run the draft for them ?

i would love to know how he finds work. Norv Turner is still coaching San Diego? their owner must be a mental midget.

Danzig 04-28-2012 08:36 AM

i saw that the browns might trade mccoy. that surprised me, i thought he had done well.

and i think the chargers owner just wants to see how low they can go. what else could explain keeping turner?


i can't stand millen. how he has employment in anything regarding football is absolutely inexplicable.

Alabama Stakes 04-28-2012 08:40 AM

If they trade McCoy, I hope they trade him to the Pats, he could become the heir apparent to the best QB ever.

cmorioles 04-29-2012 07:58 PM

What exactly would you get for Colt McCoy, a date with his sister? Certainly nothing of football value.

RockHardTen1985 04-30-2012 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 856799)
What exactly would you get for Colt McCoy, a date with his sister? Certainly nothing of football value.

A 4???

horseofcourse 05-01-2012 10:49 AM

YOu're being a wimp Calzone, lifelong Cleveland fans when all is said and done in the end accept this draft as being pretty good for Cleveland standards. Reggie Hodges was the best Browns player on the roster in 2010 and he's coming back from his injury this year, no way we were going to draft a punter!! A healthy Hodges gives them one more win in 2011.

Colt McCoy stinks and everyone knows it. I'm sure they would have taken a 7th rounder for him this year 3rd day of the draft and no one would give that up for him.

In the end they probably shouldn't have traded 3 picks to move up 1 spot and they likely could have gotten Weeden at 37 and a better o-lineman at 22, but they got two rookies to compete for the right tackle job which was needed. And Travis Benjamin is really fast. The last Cleveland championship came two years before I was born, I'm getting on up toward 50 and have seen zero in any sport in my lifetime, when you put it into that perspective, this draft was fine :D (where's clyde?)

Calzone Lord 09-09-2012 09:08 PM

The Browns abortion of a draft cost them one game.

Weeden is pathetic.

Trent Richardson -- other than one highlight reel 8-yard run was terrible -- and Schwartz wasn't doing much as the side of the O-line opposite the one Joe Thomas was on was getting blown up left and right.

The Browns defense played incredible and didn't get a break as the offense couldn't stay on the field.

The Browns defense picks Vick 4 times -- and they weren't cheap picks on deep balls either -- they were good picks that setup great field position and one of them was even returned for a TD by a linebacker.

The defense also stripped Shady McCoy and he lost a fumble, which is a major rarity for him.

Force 5 turnovers, none of them cheap ones on deep balls that are like punts, and you still lose 17-16 thanks to Weeden's solid 12-for-35 with 0 TD's and 4 INT's and Richardson's 39 yards on 19 carries plus two dropped passes.

Antitrust32 09-12-2012 09:19 AM

Vick was so pathetic.. throwing into triple coverage, staring down recievers.. the birds let cleveland hang around. Our defense was great.. the only player on the field worse than Vick on Saturday? Weeden.

Vick keeps it up and we are a 5 win team.

Calzone Lord 09-13-2012 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 889581)
Vick was so pathetic.. throwing into triple coverage, staring down recievers.. the birds let cleveland hang around. Our defense was great.. the only player on the field worse than Vick on Saturday? Weeden.

Vick keeps it up and we are a 5 win team.

The Browns defense is A LOT better than people think.

However, they might start to wear down if the offense consistently turns the ball over and can't stay on the field for more than 3 plays at a time.

They are also going to lose the star corner Haden to suspension.

Vick and the Eagles offense will be fine.

Antitrust32 09-13-2012 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 889835)
The Browns defense is A LOT better than people think.

However, they might start to wear down if the offense consistently turns the ball over and can't stay on the field for more than 3 plays at a time.

They are also going to lose the star corner Haden to suspension.

Vick and the Eagles offense will be fine.

browns have a very good pass defense. Shady McCoy ran all over them though. and with that fact... andy reid calls 56 pass plays against a pass defense that is better than our pass offense.

Vick has nowhere to go but up. even getting injured would be better than last weeks display.

Calzone Lord 09-13-2012 02:26 PM

McCoy didn't really run all over them -- he had one possession in the 4th quarter where he had 47 yards rushing that led to a missed field goal -- and he had one 22 yard run in the second quarter.

He also lost a fumble running with the ball -- and he was targeted 9 times in the passing game, which resulted in just 6 catches for 26 yards.

I thought it was a great performance by the Browns D.

They forced Shady to lose a fumble, kept him out of the endzone, made him ineffective in the passing game, all while keeping the emphasis on forcing Vick to stay in the pocket and beat them throwing from the pocket.

The Browns offense was so dreadful and couldn't stay on the field -- that it allowed the Eagles to run 88 offensive plays. Any NFL offense that runs 88 plays is going to wear a defense down in the 4th quarter.

Antitrust32 09-13-2012 02:57 PM

McCoy averaged 5.5 yards a carry and had about 30 rushing yards called back on holding penalties...

We could have ran up the score using the screen pass.. but vick locks on his first option and fails to progress through reads.. he just starts getting happy feet.

56 passes was just disgusting, especially since Reid and Morningweg could see how much Vick was struggling.

When the receivers werent open.. he could have dumped it off to shady or a TE all day long... he just seems to have a mental block on making it that far in his reads.

He will get better though. But can i trust Andy Reid to get better at calling running plays? after 13 years and 1 game, its hard to trust improvement in that area.

Browns do have a good D, especially pass... but I disagree that Shady didnt have a field day on them. though getting him to fumble is a big deal as he just doesnt cough it up very much.

Haden is the man, maybe a top 3 corner in this league. Another corner who should have a very good year is DRC for the eagles.

AlreadyHome 09-13-2012 04:50 PM

they suck
 
Browns still suck:p , even though they have good players.

Calzone Lord 09-13-2012 05:25 PM

They have a very good defense and the consensus best Left Tackle in football.

Weeden had 4 INT's, 2 fumbles, and got sacked by an American Flag in the pre-game warm-up ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vREi35khV0 ) and they only lost to Philly by 1.

They are 1 good QB away from being a contender.

Clip-Clop 09-14-2012 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 889908)
They have a very good defense and the consensus best Left Tackle in football.

Weeden had 4 INT's, 2 fumbles, and got sacked by an American Flag in the pre-game warm-up ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vREi35khV0 ) and they only lost to Philly by 1.

They are 1 good QB away from being a contender.

Just like everyone but the Saints, Pats, Giants, Broncos and Packers.

Calzone Lord 09-14-2012 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 890087)
Just like everyone but the Saints, Pats, Giants, Broncos and Packers.

If the Browns had Mike Vick and he stayed healthy for most of the season they'd be a playoff team.

Coach Pants 09-16-2012 02:25 PM

Trent Richardson is the motherf.ucking man. Keep doubting him at your peril.

NTamm1215 09-16-2012 09:58 PM

Weeden played well today.

On another note, Robert Griffin III is awfully fun to watch.

Coach Pants 09-16-2012 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 890527)
Weeden played well today.

On another note, Robert Griffin III is awfully fun to watch.

Yes he did.

They don't need him to be a superstar qb. A slightly better version of Trent Dilfer is fine.

This team will be a playoff team primarily on how the defense fares.


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