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Scav 09-18-2006 12:52 PM

Ryan Howard - Anyone else hoping
 
that he gets to 62 so we can have all sorts of controversy. I would personally recognized him as the Home Run champ over Bonds/McGwire if he were to break Maris' record, but that is me. There is NO WAY that Howard is juicing, not a chance in hell

BellamyRd. 09-18-2006 01:47 PM

the Maris family agrees with you and is cheering on RH
I'm just hoping we can catch the Dodgers!

SniperSB23 09-18-2006 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
that he gets to 62 so we can have all sorts of controversy. I would personally recognized him as the Home Run champ over Bonds/McGwire if he were to break Maris' record, but that is me. There is NO WAY that Howard is juicing, not a chance in hell

Why is there no chance in hell? Doesn't the steroid testing policy have a limit to the number of times you can randomly be tested? If Howard hit the allocated number of random tests in July then he could have been juicing since then. Might explain why his pre All Star break slugging percentage was .582 and his post All Star break slugging percentage was .811. I'm not saying this is the case but it is pretty ridiculous to think there is no chance in hell he is juicing.

SCUDSBROTHER 09-18-2006 02:13 PM

I have heard this guy(Howard) talk about this before.He said there are tests,and if they come back negative then that's all that is important.Meanwhile, the guy is probably taking a ton of HGH that the league isn't testing for at all.Until they get around to testing for it,they are totally free to get away with it(unless they get caught buying it..........like the guy did that was playing for Arizona.)Almost every time a guy has spiked like this,they have been found out.If he is doing the HGH,I think somebody will rat him out in a few years.Same for Frank Thomas.

Gander 09-18-2006 02:20 PM

Who cares? They arent making the playoffs and the HR stat is quite frankly a huge bore anyways.

Coach Pants 09-18-2006 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Who cares? They arent making the playoffs and the HR stat is quite frankly a huge bore anyways.

Obviously alot of people care.

Gander 09-18-2006 02:58 PM

Your right.It should be held in very high regard when such heroes like Mcgwire, Sosa, Giambi, Palmeiro and Bonds have pioneered the fine art of hitting a baseball 400 feet. All such outstanding contributors to our nation's pasttime. What would we do without them?

Coach Pants 09-18-2006 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
Your right.It should be held in very high regard when such heroes like Mcgwire, Sosa, Giambi, Palmeiro and Bonds have pioneered the fine art of hitting a baseball 400 feet. All such outstanding contributors to our nation's pasttime. What would we do without them?

The reason why most of these guys juiced was to hit the long ball. MLB pretty much turned their backs on doping because they needed to fill the seats.

Scav 09-18-2006 03:40 PM

Howard and Frank Thomas
 
Guys doing HGH don't have stomachs like Ryan Howard, it chews away the fat, he hasn't worked out a day in his life

As far as Frank Thomas Scuds, the dude is NATURALLY huge, played TE for Auburn, I highly doubt he is juicing in any way but natural weights

SCUDSBROTHER 09-18-2006 03:44 PM

Gander,I am surprised you are so sure Philly is not going to make the playoffs.They are all of 1 game behind the Dodgers in the Wild Card.


LA Dodgers 78 71 .523 -

Philadelphia 77 72 .517- 1

SFrancisco 74 74 .500 -3.5

Florida........74 75 .497 -4

Gander 09-18-2006 03:54 PM

My bad Scuds, I thought they were 3.5 in back of LA in the wildcard. I still dont think they will get in though, but obviously less sure now that you have corrected me. Thats a pretty big difference (2.5 games).

The reason why most of these guys juiced was to hit the long ball. MLB pretty much turned their backs on doping because they needed to fill the seats.

I agree 100%.


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