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Kasept 03-07-2012 02:19 PM

Amoss, Moss fighting Indiana on anti-inflam positives
 
http://www.drf.com/news/indiana-comm...tion-positives

The Indiana Horse Racing Commission has recommended that trainer Tom Amoss be suspended for 60 days and fined $5,000 after a horse he trained tested positive for methocarbomol after running in a race at Hoosier Park on Oct. 21, the third time that one of the trainer’s horses tested positive for the drug in a span of 15 days last fall.

Attorneys for Amoss have asked that the case against the trainer in Indiana be dismissed, citing procedural violations, according to Maggi Moss, one of the attorneys. Moss, an owner who has horses with Amoss, also said that guidelines requiring harsh penalties for trainers whose horses test positive for prohibited medications three times in a 12-month period should not apply in the case, saying that Amoss was unaware at the time the horse raced that other horses under his care had tested positive for the drug in Kentucky.

cmorioles 03-07-2012 03:56 PM

I shouldn't get the "serious offenders" penalty because I didn't know I'd been caught all those other times. Wow, that is rich.

Calzone Lord 03-07-2012 07:29 PM

The interesting thing about Tom Amoss is that he's actually lost his edge over the last year or two.

This guy is the rare trainer who is also an excellent TV analyst. He's not only sharp and opinionated on TV...but he looks like he's been doing it all his life.

However...I've always felt this guy took an edge and was certainly no saint.

He had too much magic with claiming sprinters for too long.

862-300-147-111 (34% wins) $2.32 ROI

Sorry ... but you don't yield a 16% profit from over 800 starters sending out a parade of short priced horses and getting bet on name ... without having an edge.

Cannon Shell 03-07-2012 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 844057)
The interesting thing about Tom Amoss is that he's actually lost his edge over the last year or two.

This guy is the rare trainer who is also an excellent TV analyst. He's not only sharp and opinionated on TV...but he looks like he's been doing it all his life.

However...I've always felt this guy took an edge and was certainly no saint.

He had too much magic with claiming sprinters for too long.

862-300-147-111 (34% wins) $2.32 ROI

Sorry ... but you don't yield a 16% profit from over 800 starters sending out a parade of short priced horses and getting bet on name ... without having an edge.

The edge isnt methocarbomal

Calzone Lord 03-07-2012 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 844073)
The edge isnt methocarbomal

I'm not sure he even has his edge anymore.

Amoss did win at over 30% in 2011 from over 500 starters ... but it was truly a statistically terrible year for his standards when you look at the telling stuff that really matters.

Perhaps the bad test was the result of a little sloppyness in the barn or whatever and the substance doesn't matter.

I don't know how any of these guys get their edge...but it's pretty obvious when they do have it.

DaTruth 03-07-2012 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 844057)
The interesting thing about Tom Amoss is that he's actually lost his edge over the last year or two.

This guy is the rare trainer who is also an excellent TV analyst. He's not only sharp and opinionated on TV...but he looks like he's been doing it all his life.

However...I've always felt this guy took an edge and was certainly no saint.

He had too much magic with claiming sprinters for too long.

862-300-147-111 (34% wins) $2.32 ROI

Sorry ... but you don't yield a 16% profit from over 800 starters sending out a parade of short priced horses and getting bet on name ... without having an edge.

It had to be a huge letdown for Amoss when Frank Bernis left. He was Amoss's eyes and ears when it came to evaluating horses to claim or purchase privately.

Round Pen 03-08-2012 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 844073)
The edge isnt methocarbomal

You said that right


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