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Merlinsky 02-15-2012 03:46 PM

Possible Southwest split
 
http://www.drf.com/news/oaklawn-sout...may-wind-split

I've seen records of races split into two divisions, but for whatever reason I've not actually seen it done going into the race. Thoughts on seeing the possibility of it here?

Calzone Lord 02-15-2012 04:50 PM

The opening day stakes race for 3yos on the turf -- the Oceanside would spilt almost every year at Del Mar.

cmorioles 02-15-2012 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 838893)
The opening day stakes race for 3yos on the turf -- the Oceanside would spilt almost every year at Del Mar.

I believe I remember a year with three divisions!

Danzig 02-15-2012 06:44 PM

from what i saw in the paper the other day, there's a very good chance of a split. good to see! they had also announced purse increases, another good sign.

RolloTomasi 02-15-2012 07:34 PM

The Risen Star at Fair Grounds was split in divisions twice, in '93 and '95.

The Fountain Of Youth at Gulfstream was split in divisions twice between '86-'93.

The Gotham at Aqueduct was split 3 times between '74-'84.

The Hollywood Derby was split nearly every year in the '80s, and again in '91.

DaTruth 02-15-2012 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 838924)
The Risen Star at Fair Grounds was split in divisions twice, in '93 and '95.

It was also split in 1989, when one of the divisions was won by the very good Dispersal.

Tejano Run struggled with the slop in one of the 1995 divisions. For added excitement, Concern had a public work that afternoon with Jerry Bailey aboard. Soon after, Concern's trainer switched to Mike Smith to ride Concern. I'm sure Bailey was crushed that he had to console himself with Cigar.

jms62 02-16-2012 03:50 AM

How is it they can get 21 for a derby prep and we wind up with 6 horse fields at Gulfstream and New York?

RockHardTen1985 02-16-2012 05:09 AM

Secret circle gets 2 shine

KirisClown 02-16-2012 07:04 AM

In the 90s... The Lake George at Saratoga was split numerous times as was The Lake Placid(when it was run as the Nijana). The Jaipur was split a couple times too..

cmorioles 02-16-2012 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 838895)
I believe I remember a year with three divisions!

This was 2007, found the PPs.

tjfla 02-16-2012 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 838964)
How is it they can get 21 for a derby prep and we wind up with 6 horse fields at Gulfstream and New York?

The funniest part is the San Vicente which pays 150k at 7F has 5 probables. Creative Cause and nothing

O well at least horse will have to prove they belong instead of just beating nothing. Plus least we will have 2 good betting races instead of a Grade 3 with 5 runners and 2 Allowance races with 6 like Gulfstream

Kasept 02-16-2012 02:50 PM

Secret Circle
Longview Drive
Cyber Secret
Junebugred
Jake Mo
Majestic Stride
Najjaar
Atigun
Optimizer
Reckless Jerry
Apprehender
Unbridled's Note
Castaway
Cyber Secret
Adirondack King
Laurie's Rocket
Pee H Dee
Z Rockstar
Ring It Up

tjfla 02-16-2012 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept (Post 839119)
Secret Circle
Longview Drive
Cyber Secret
Junebugred
Jake Mo
Majestic Stride
Najjaar
Atigun
Optimizer
Reckless Jerry
Apprehender
Unbridled's Note
Castaway
Cyber Secret
Adirondack King
Laurie's Rocket
Pee H Dee
Apprehender

And I think there's 3 more..

Got Apprehender 2 times Steve

Probable are Z Rockstar and Ring It Up with Optimizer maybe going to the Risen Star

tjfla 02-16-2012 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjfla (Post 839090)
The funniest part is the San Vicente which pays 150k at 7F has 5 probables. Creative Cause and nothing

O well at least horse will have to prove they belong instead of just beating nothing. Plus least we will have 2 good betting races instead of a Grade 3 with 5 runners and 2 Allowance races with 6 like Gulfstream

San Vicente

Let's Get Crackin
Creative Cause
Drill
American Act
Captain Obvious
Smoking G

and this is Graded:confused:

RolloTomasi 02-16-2012 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjfla (Post 839129)
San Vicente

Let's Get Crackin
Creative Cause
Drill
American Act
Captain Obvious
Smoking G

and this is Graded:confused:

You have 2 Grade 1 winners, both of whom have also placed in Grade 1 events. American Act comes off a maiden win that produced 2 subsequent winners in maiden special weights, including the highly touted Bodemeister (the other was out of champion Folklore). Let's Get Crackin' has placed in 4 minor stakes.

Tough crowd.

Clip-Clop 02-16-2012 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjfla (Post 839128)
Got Apprehender 2 times Steve

Probable are Z Rockstar and Ring It Up with Optimizer maybe going to the Risen Star

He LIKES Apprehender!

my miss storm cat 02-16-2012 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 838966)
Secret circle gets 2 shine

While he's looking at Junebugreds backside? Cool.


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