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Calzone Lord 02-03-2012 06:45 PM

If you had money on a 12th place tie -- collect your $2.10 mutual
 
http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/kentu...well-farm.aspx

Calzone Lord 02-03-2012 07:29 PM

For the record, I wouldn't want to do any list like this right now.

Between the 43 horses included in either his top 12 or knocking on the door section ... that fast Eddington horse Secret Circle isn't one of them. He would probably be post time favorite in a 9 furlong match race over all but two or three names...and would beat atleast half of them badly.

It's basically just a great big hunt for lightly raced slowpokes with stamina pedigrees. Some are sure to develop and improve -- the ones who won't you'll never hear much from again.

Sabercat is in the top five -- and his career highlight is winning an 84 Beyer race at Delta Downs where he got a nice setup. He did manage to run 3 points faster than the Oklahoma bred filly Remington shipper who took the Delta Princess with an 81.

blackthroatedwind 02-03-2012 09:17 PM

I'm not sure Sabercat should be in the top five for the Oklahoma Derby futures list.

Calzone Lord 02-04-2012 07:24 PM

A maiden wins the Sam Davis at Tampa. He was cross entered in a MSW race.

Three horses who still have the N1X crossed the wire 1-2-3 in the Bob Lewis -- all were double digit odds and the dominating 40/1+ winner was going to run in an N1X alw race on Thursday, but the owner talked the trainer into running in the Bob Lewis.

Alpha was a little bit wide -- but he hasn't shed his case of the slows. A horse off of three straight figs in the 64-to-68 range plugged home 2nd.

Really superb stuff.

NTamm1215 02-04-2012 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 836550)
A maiden wins the Sam Davis at Tampa. He was cross entered in a MSW race.

Three horses who still have the N1X crossed the wire 1-2-3 in the Bob Lewis -- all were double digit odds and the dominating 40/1+ winner was going to run in an N1X alw race on Thursday, but the owner talked the trainer into running in the Bob Lewis.

Alpha was a little bit wide -- but he hasn't shed his case of the slows. A horse off of three straight figs in the 64-to-68 range plugged home 2nd.

Really superb stuff.

Please reserve judgment until the experts of cyberspace release their Derby top 17s, which should be available soon.

GenuineRisk 02-04-2012 08:00 PM

Here's a link to his Derby Dozen at this point in 2011:

http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/kentu...mill-farm.aspx

Calzone Lord 02-04-2012 08:17 PM

It's really become more and more a guessing game because trainers aren't running their horses like they did in the not to distant past.

NTamm1215 02-04-2012 08:24 PM

Last 5 Derby winners at this point:

Animal Kingdom - Maiden winner on Polytrack; one month away from 3YO debut
Super Saver - G2 winner at CD; one month away from 3YO debut
Mine That Bird - Graded stake winner on Polytrack at WO; one month away from 3YO debut
Big Brown - Maiden winner; one month away from 3YO debut
Street Sense - Juvy champion; one month away from 3YO debut

Calzone Lord 02-04-2012 08:27 PM

I think Big Brown is the last Derby winner to win a race besides the Kentucky Derby on dirt as a 3yo.

Pretty sure the KY Derby is the only dirt race Animal Kingdom has ever won. Pretty sure Super Saver's only win after age two came in the Ky Derby. Pretty sure Mine That Bird's lone win after his 2-yo season came in the KY Derby.

Sightseek 02-05-2012 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 836550)
A maiden wins the Sam Davis at Tampa. He was cross entered in a MSW race.

Three horses who still have the N1X crossed the wire 1-2-3 in the Bob Lewis -- all were double digit odds and the dominating 40/1+ winner was going to run in an N1X alw race on Thursday, but the owner talked the trainer into running in the Bob Lewis.

Alpha was a little bit wide -- but he hasn't shed his case of the slows. A horse off of three straight figs in the 64-to-68 range plugged home 2nd.

Really superb stuff.

On the bright side -- at least it wasn't the Todd Pletcher show!

my miss storm cat 02-05-2012 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek (Post 836651)
On the bright side -- at least it wasn't the Todd Pletcher show!

:tro:


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