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doll0608 01-26-2012 10:00 AM

Temper, temper....
 
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...verbal--of-vet

MaTH716 01-26-2012 10:04 AM

I find it interesting that nothing is mentioned whether the wrong horse was tested or not.

Danzig 01-26-2012 10:41 AM

'Balsamo told them that she had seen the name of the horse to be tested on a card and they pulled blood on the wrong horse. The vet and her assistant testified that they don’t have names of horses to be tested, only numbers and stall locations.'



if they don't have a name, how could she have seen a name? if it was the correct barn and stall #, sounds like the trainer was trying to cloud an issue.

MaTH716 01-26-2012 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 834178)
'Balsamo told them that she had seen the name of the horse to be tested on a card and they pulled blood on the wrong horse. The vet and her assistant testified that they don’t have names of horses to be tested, only numbers and stall locations.'



if they don't have a name, how could she have seen a name? if it was the correct barn and stall #, sounds like the trainer was trying to cloud an issue.

Doesn't it have to be more detailed than that? Wouldn't it be the lip tatoo if it was anything?

Danzig 01-26-2012 10:47 AM

i have no idea. the trainers on here would have to say whether horses are always kept in their assigned stall. i know when they have articles about derby horses going on to the preakness and belmont, they mention what stall they're in.

Coach Pants 01-26-2012 10:48 AM

So it takes 10 months to settle this issue? :zz:

MaTH716 01-26-2012 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 834181)
So it takes 10 months to settle this issue? :zz:

Maybe there was a Dutrow backlog...............:rolleyes:

Coach Pants 01-26-2012 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 834183)
Maybe there was a Dutrow backlog...............:rolleyes:

They really are wasting time and resources trying to catch Balsamo cheating? What difference would it make?

:D

doll0608 01-26-2012 12:14 PM

First of all when a trainer signs the back of their stall application they are agreeing to allowing any state testing, searches etc. Second it's mandatory that all horses that are entered report the stall number. It is also mandatory to have a large red sign that state "horse is entered today" outside any horses are running. We've, along with most trainers, have had the same testing and have not inncurred any problems.

Coach Pants 01-26-2012 12:18 PM

Yeah but the comparison is like saying nordstroms is the same as :Da swap meet.

doll0608 01-26-2012 12:21 PM

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...143_n.jpg?dl=1

I can't figure out how to post the picture but here is a picture of what the sign looks like. It's pretty hard to not see it

MaTH716 01-26-2012 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doll0608 (Post 834200)
First of all when a trainer signs the back of their stall application they are agreeing to allowing any state testing, searches etc. Second it's mandatory that all horses that are entered report the stall number. It is also mandatory to have a large red sign that state "horse is entered today" outside any horses are running. We've, along with most trainers, have had the same testing and have not inncurred any problems.

All those rules are good and seem easy enough to follow. But in a sport where people will allegedly use cobra venom to get ahead, you would think that the procedure to test horses would be a little more in depth than trusting that all the right horses are in all the right stalls.

Linny 01-26-2012 02:22 PM

According to the article the horse was NOT scheduled to race that day. That being the case, the horse wouldn't have had any tag on his stall. They never did answer the question as to whether Balsamo was right and the wrong horse was sampled.

In light of the fact that a horse was recently treated with Lasix by accident and other such incidents I'd like to know more about the situation before passing judgement on Balsamo.

Danzig 01-26-2012 02:25 PM

i'm inclined to believe that the accusation of it being the wrong horse was found to be incorrect. otherwise i'd imagine they wouldn't have fined the trainer, if she'd actually been correct.

Rudeboyelvis 01-26-2012 02:31 PM

I'm more inclined to believe that NYRA doesn't like trainers telling their dimwits how to do their jobs and set an example.


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