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Riot 01-24-2012 03:12 PM

Newt blames bad debate last night on lack of audience cheering
 
Poor Newt. You have been revealed as just an average debator. Your Southern Strategy dog whistles don't work when the dogs are not allowed to bark.

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Mr. Gingrich, a former House speaker, on Tuesday morning threatened not participate in any future debates with audiences that have been instructed to be silent. That was the case on Monday, when Brian Williams of NBC News asked the audience of about 500 people who assembled for a debate in Tampa to hold their applause until the commercial breaks.

In an interview with the morning show “Fox and Friends,” Mr. Gingrich said NBC’s rules amounted to stifling free speech. In what has become a standard line of attack for his anti-establishment campaign, Mr. Gingrich blamed the media for trying to silence a dissenting point of view.

“I wish in retrospect I’d protested when Brian Williams took them out of it because I think it’s wrong,” Mr. Gingrich said. “And I think he took them out of it because the media is terrified that the audience is going to side with the candidates against the media, which is what they’ve done in every debate.”


dellinger63 01-24-2012 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 833861)
Poor Newt. You have been revealed as just an average debator. Your Southern Strategy dog whistles don't work when the dogs are not allowed to bark.

I get it. Illegally occupying a government building chanting protest slogans is free speech. Applause at a political debate not.


Rudeboyelvis 01-24-2012 03:29 PM

^^^^:tro::tro::tro:^^^^

Antitrust32 01-24-2012 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 833861)
Poor Newt. You have been revealed as just an average debator. Your Southern Strategy dog whistles don't work when the dogs are not allowed to bark.

average debator? He'd tear your lover Obama to shreds in a debate.

GBBob 01-24-2012 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 833872)
average debator? He'd tear your lover Obama to shreds in a debate.

He doesn't debate..he lectures..and hypocritcally as well. And debates aren't football games...cheering should be controlled.

Antitrust32 01-24-2012 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob (Post 833876)
He doesn't debate..he lectures..and hypocritcally as well. And debates aren't football games...cheering should be controlled.

i'm not into controlling people's emotions.

If you want a controlled audience, than dont invite any audience at all. Just do the debate for the tv cameras.

but if Newt wins the nom, Obama doesnt stand a chance in debates.

Riot 01-24-2012 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 833866)
I get it. Illegally occupying a government building chanting protest slogans is free speech. Applause at a political debate not.

LOL - seriously? You are comparing those two things?

:D:D:tro:

(by the way, I've always decried illegal occupation of buildings on this list. So calling someone a hypocrite for something they do not believe just makes you look stupid. Again)

Riot 01-24-2012 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 833878)
i'm not into controlling people's emotions.

If you want a controlled audience, than dont invite any audience at all. Just do the debate for the tv cameras.

but if Newt wins the nom, Obama doesnt stand a chance in debates.

The audience rudeness at televised political debates is a very recent thing. Most adults used to know that if they were invited to sit in the audience to watch a political debate live, it wasn't about them.

And Newt demonstrated last night his inability to respond live to attacks and accusations. The only thing Newt does is blow dog whistles and lecture. Newt has been in government for 40 years. He's nothing new, and we've seen his complete bag of tricks 20 years ago. The sudden infatuation with Newt is laughable, especially by the Tea Party. Newt is the consummate Washington insider lobbyist, making his money off influence peddling. His taking credit for Clinton's accomplishments just gets better and better as Newt gets more and more grandiose in his claims.

Coach Pants 01-24-2012 05:01 PM

American politics have been anything but civil in the past. You're wrong yet again.

Riot 01-24-2012 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 833883)
American politics have been anything but civil in the past. You're wrong yet again.

What I said was:

The audience rudeness at televised political debates is a very recent thing. Most adults used to know that if they were invited to sit in the audience to watch a political debate live, it wasn't about them.

Coach Pants 01-24-2012 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 833884)
What I said was:

The audience rudeness at televised political debates is a very recent thing. Most adults used to know that if they were invited to sit in the audience to watch a political debate live, it wasn't about them.

The fact that a debate is on television means f.uck all and you're wrong either way with that weak hedge/semantics horses.hit.

Riot 01-24-2012 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 833887)
The fact that a debate is on television means f.uck all and you're wrong either way with that weak hedge/semantics horses.hit.

You're the one that tried to take my comment about audience behaviour at televised political debates and equate it to the entirety of political correctness and behaviour over decades.

I wouldn't presume to lecture another on "semantics" after that reach :D

Antitrust32 01-24-2012 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 833882)
The audience rudeness at televised political debates is a very recent thing. Most adults used to know that if they were invited to sit in the audience to watch a political debate live, it wasn't about them.

And Newt demonstrated last night his inability to respond live to attacks and accusations. The only thing Newt does is blow dog whistles and lecture. Newt has been in government for 40 years. He's nothing new, and we've seen his complete bag of tricks 20 years ago. The sudden infatuation with Newt is laughable, especially by the Tea Party. Newt is the consummate Washington insider lobbyist, making his money off influence peddling. His taking credit for Clinton's accomplishments just gets better and better as Newt gets more and more grandiose in his claims.

taking credit for clinton's accomplishments??? really??

So let me get this straight.

the speaker of the house... ya know, the most important person in congress.. had nothing to do with accomplishments in the 90's?

Do I need to give you a basic rundown of how the government works.. especially how bills are formed? I probably could find some old slides from 5th grade..

Riot 01-24-2012 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 833893)
taking credit for clinton's accomplishments??? really??

So let me get this straight.

the speaker of the house... ya know, the most important person in congress.. had nothing to do with accomplishments in the 90's?

Newt had plenty to do with some, and little to nothing to do with others. His claims are typical Newt - they get more grandiose as time goes on :D

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Do I need to give you a basic rundown of how the government works.. especially how bills are formed? I probably could find some old slides from 5th grade..
While you are looking that up, read a good detailed book on our political sausage making from 1981 on, and Newt's real involvement. We have a long, long history of factual Newtdom to work off of.

Danzig 01-24-2012 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 833883)
American politics have been anything but civil in the past. You're wrong yet again.

ain't that the truth! it cracks me up when people bemoan the lack of civility today, and talk of 'the good old days'. what, like back when the v.p. shot the former secretary of the treasury in a duel? or when the guy took a fellow senators cane and thrashed him with it? anyone ever take a gander at the political cartoons back when honest abe was in the running for president, and after he was elected? WOW. they were unbelievable.

Antitrust32 01-24-2012 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 833896)
ain't that the truth! it cracks me up when people bemoan the lack of civility today, and talk of 'the good old days'. what, like back when the v.p. shot the former secretary of the treasury in a duel? or when the guy took a fellow senators cane and thrashed him with it? anyone ever take a gander at the political cartoons back when honest abe was in the running for president, and after he was elected? WOW. they were unbelievable.

yeah, but, but... people were nicer on TV back then.

Riot 01-24-2012 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 833896)
ain't that the truth! it cracks me up when people bemoan the lack of civility today, and talk of 'the good old days'. what, like back when the v.p. shot the former secretary of the treasury in a duel? or when the guy took a fellow senators cane and thrashed him with it? anyone ever take a gander at the political cartoons back when honest abe was in the running for president, and after he was elected? WOW. they were unbelievable.

All of which has exactly nothing to do with the behaviour of live TV audiences in studios, watching - not participating in - political debates in 2012.

bigrun 01-24-2012 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 833861)
Poor Newt. You have been revealed as just an average debator. Your Southern Strategy dog whistles don't work when the dogs are not allowed to bark.



“I wish in retrospect I’d protested when Brian Williams took them out of it because I think it’s wrong,” Mr. Gingrich said. “And I think he took them out of it because the media is terrified that the audience is going to side with the candidates against the media, which is what they’ve done in every debate.”


Neal Boortz who is so far right he went over the edge blasted Williams on his radio show this morn...lamestream media liptard hack among other things..Newt is his buddy as is Herman Cain...I catch his act for about an
hour in the a.m....very entertaining and keeps me in laughs...

Last nite Stewart and Colbert nailed the Newtster...and Colbert showed his rally in SC where he asked voters to vote Cain which would be a vote for him..Last nite he said Cain was NUMBER 1...1% that is..


http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-epi...hleen-sebelius


http://www.colbertnation.com/the-col...-carolina-kill

Coach Pants 01-24-2012 05:38 PM

The same piece of machinery that shows people competing for a husband and also swapping spouses is supposed to automatically induce civility in a political debate? Just admit you're wrong, psycho.

Riot 01-24-2012 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 833904)
The same piece of machinery that shows people competing for a husband and also swapping spouses is supposed to automatically induce civility in a political debate? Just admit you're wrong, psycho.

People are responsible for their own civility. Example: you.

Newt was using the Southern Strategy in South Carolina. Just like Palin. Just like Nixon. Just like Reagan. Just like Atwater. It doesn't work without lemming-like crowd frenzy feeding off itself.


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