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Riot 01-23-2012 03:51 PM

Rand Pzul says TSA patdown result of massive conspiracy
 
Oh, for gawd's sakes, my senator is crazy ....

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Coach Pants 01-24-2012 05:18 AM

He's not crazy. He's inquisitive. There's a difference. He also doesn't trust his government and rightfully so.

You're the crazy one. Don't ask questions. Just obey, dummy.

dellinger63 01-24-2012 11:42 AM

Amazing how your read what's not there. He never mentioned conspiracy, much less refer to it as massive.

It was a simple question whether TSA workers can over ride the metal detectors or whether they're purposely set up to give false positives initiating random pat downs.

You do realize that unlike some of your favorite mid-east countries the U.S. has laws pertaining to probable cause, search and seizure and a bunch of other mumbo jumbo to ensure an individual rights? :zz:

Riot 01-24-2012 02:29 PM

Nope. Crazy conspiracy theorist. As loony as his father.

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He said he suspects the equipment is rigged to set off false positives that then allow the TSA to conduct random pat downs without having to pull a passenger aside.

“I think was mine probably random, I doubt I was picked on,” he said. “But I would like to know: does the screener have the ability to push the button and randomly get someone to set off a screener?

dellinger63 01-24-2012 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 833833)
Nope. Crazy conspiracy theorist. As loony as his father.


Just a scientific mind and the awareness of his father, but I’m sure the TSA agent was smart too. He even though he was unable to formulate an answer to a simple question posed. Probably just a bad day :confused:

Antitrust32 01-24-2012 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 833833)
Nope. Crazy conspiracy theorist. As loony as his father.

yeah, what a crazy conspiracy. I mean the guy goes through one scanner and it goes off. Then he goes through another scanner, without changing anything, and it doesnt go off. You'd have to be really crazy to think that is strange and possibly set up. :rolleyes:


in reality, you'd have to be crazy to not think something is "strange" regarding one scanner going off, and another one not.

Riot 01-24-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 833869)
yeah, what a crazy conspiracy. I mean the guy goes through one scanner and it goes off. Then he goes through another scanner, without changing anything, and it doesnt go off. You'd have to be really crazy to think that is strange and possibly set up. :rolleyes:


in reality, you'd have to be crazy to not think something is "strange" regarding one scanner going off, and another one not.

Unless, you know, you had the education and knowledge to know how scanners work.

If you don't know that, I can see how someone would think it's crazy not to think it's a weird conspiracy. Like the moon landing was faked, and dinosaurs and man walked the earth together.

Face it: Paul, who is an arrogant SOB from my observation, is just very, very mad he was treated like very other US citizen.

Coach Pants 01-24-2012 05:13 PM

So you're saying basically that they are flawed and don't work properly but we should accept them because they are needed to harrass senators who, by the constitution, cannot be detained unless they are guilty of tyranny.

Damn you're stupid

Riot 01-24-2012 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 833889)
So you're saying basically that they are flawed and don't work properly but we should accept them because they are needed to harrass senators who, by the constitution, cannot be detained unless they are guilty of tyranny.

No.

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Damn you're stupid
I wouldn't dare to make that claim from where you've chosen to stand, either :D

Antitrust32 01-24-2012 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 833885)
Unless, you know, you had the education and knowledge to know how scanners work.

.

oh I'm sure you just got back from your montly scanning seminar.

So, you're telling me that I should be able to walk through two scanners, and one should go off and the other scanner should just let me walk through with no problem?

If that's how scanners work, then the TSA wasted a **** ton of money installing broken machines.

Riot 01-24-2012 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32 (Post 833894)
oh I'm sure you just got back from your montly scanning seminar.

So, you're telling me that I should be able to walk through two scanners, and one should go off and the other scanner should just let me walk through with no problem?

If that's how scanners work, then the TSA wasted a **** ton of money installing broken machines.

I guess you don't fly, or ever enter a courthouse? You've never heard of someone walking through a scanner, having it go off, then walking back through again and not having it alarm? Or having it alarm to nothing visible? Or titanium in an implant? Or a hearing aid? Or change in a pocket? Which is why they have patdowns?

Yea gods! You're right! It's a massive conspiracy theory! It couldn't possibly be the sensitivity set of the scanners, or the known things that can false alarm them! The scanners are all fake, and operated by random buttons activated by agents! That's much more logical!

Antitrust32 01-24-2012 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 833897)
I guess you don't fly, or ever enter a courthouse? You've never heard of someone walking through a scanner, having it go off, then walking back through again and not having it alarm? Or having it alarm to nothing visible? Which is why they have patdowns?

Yea gods! You're right! It's a massive conspiracy theory! It couldn't possibly be the sensitivity set of the scanners, or the known things that can false alarm them! The scanners are all fake, and operated by random buttons activated by agents! That's much more logical!

I've only flown about 350 times. Have you used the new machines? when they go off, it pinpoints an area where there is metal. On, me, its usually a piercing that sets it off. So they use a wand over my piercing and send me on my merry way. Thankfully, they dont check too much, because a few months ago i landed at my destination and realized there was half of a blunt in my purse. god i hate purses.

Coach Pants 01-25-2012 07:20 AM

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