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Alan07 01-22-2012 02:39 PM

1/28 (GP/SA): Florida & California Sunshine Millions
 
5th Race. 2:35PM Florida Sunshine Millions Distaff

Purse $300,000 Guaranteed 1 1/8 Miles FOR FOUR YEAR OLDS AND UPWARD FILLIES AND MARES REGISTERED FLORIDA BREDS WITH THE FTBOA.

1 MY PAL CHRISY (L) Lutchman, P Panici, L 119
2 TIZ THE ARGUMENT (L) Dutrow, Jr., R R. A. Dominguez 117
3 DELIGHTFUL MARY (L) Casse, M Contreras, L 117
4 AWESOME FEATHER (L) Brown, C Sanchez, J 123
5 PERFECT EMBRACE (L) Dibona, B Lopez, P 117
6 SWEET REPENT (L) Braddy, J Cruz, M 117



6th Race. 3:05PM Florida Sunshine Millions Fillies And Mares Sprint

Purse $150,000 Guaranteed 6 Furlongs FOR FOUR YEAR OLDS AND UPWARD FILLIES AND MARES REGISTERED FLORIDA BREDS WITH THE FTBOA.

1 IT'S ME MOM (L) Scace, L Martinez, W 117
2 HONEY CHILE (L) Catalano, W Leparoux, J 117
3 INDULGENCE (L) Wolfson, MD Trujillo, E 117
4 DERWIN'S STAR (L) Klesaris, S Rocco, Jr., J 117
5 POMEROYS PISTOL (L) Tarrant, A Castellano, J 121
6 MUSICAL ROMANCE (L) Kaplan, W Leyva, J 123
7 BEAT THE BLUES (L) Calhoun, W Mena, M 117



7th Race. 3:35PM Florida Sunshine Millions Sprint

Purse $150,000 Guaranteed 6 Furlongs FOR FOUR YEAR OLDS AND UPWARD REGISTERED FLORIDA BREDS WITH THE FTBOA.

1 ROYAL CURRIER (L) Farro, P R. A. Dominguez 119
2 SOARING STOCKS (L) Pletcher, T Velazquez, J 117
3 MADMAN DIARIES (L) Ward, W Sanchez, J 117
4 RIBO BOBO (L) Azpurua, M Gonzalez, A 117
5 IT'S NEVER TO LATE (L) Cartagena, J Gonzalez, S 117
6 ZERO RATE POLICY (L) Pompay, T Lopez, P 119
7 APRIORITY (L) Fawkes, D Saez, L 123
8 CAJUN BREEZE (L) Yates, M Leyva, J 117



8th Race. 4:10PM Florida Sunshine Millions Filly And Mare Turf

Purse $150,000 Guaranteed 1 1/8 Miles(Turf)(Rail at 36 Feet) FOR FOUR YEAR OLDS AND UPWARD FILLIES AND MARES REGISTERED FLORIDA BREDS WITH THE FTBOA.

1 SPEAK EASY GAL (L) Wolfson, MD Trujillo, E 117
2 ZAPPARITION (L) Romans, D Castellano, J 117
3 VENTANIA (L) Rosas-Canessa, W Cruz, M 117
4 UNBRIDLED HUMOR (L) Motion, H R. A. Dominguez 121
5 ROMACACA (L) Canani, N Lopez, P 117
6 ASKBUT I WON'TTELL (L) Block, C Maragh, R 117
7 TRIP FOR A. J. (L) Wolfson, MW Fuller, A 117
8 HOOH WHY (L) Girten-Drake, S Velazquez, J 117
9 ROMIN ROBIN (L) Kassen, D Bravo, J 117



SANTA ANITA 4th - THE SENSATIONAL STAR STAKES (4:35 p.m.)

(1) Luckarack Hector Berrios 15
(2) Ain’t No Other Martin Garcia 6
(3) Tamarack Smarty David Flores 20
(4) Compari Mike Smith 5/2
(5) Caracortado Rafael Bejarano 4/5
(6) My Summer Slew Alonso Quinonez 20
(7) Mega Heat Joe Talamo 12
(8) Red Defense Joel Rosario 8



9th Race. 4:50PM Florida Sunshine Millions Turf

Purse $150,000 Guaranteed 1 1/8 Miles (Turf) FOR FOUR YEAR OLDS AND UPWARD REGISTERED FLORIDA BREDS WITH THE FTBOA.

1 SLEWS ANSWER (L) Motion, H R. A. Dominguez 117
2 LIVINGSTON STREET (L) Kaplan, W Leyva, J 117
3 BAD DEBT (L) Trombetta, M Carmouche, K 119
4 BELL BY THE RIDGE (L) Maker, M Castellano, J 117
5 LITTLE MIKE (L) Romans, D Bravo, J 117
6 BECKHAM BEND (L) Chapman, J Desormeaux, K 117
7 ALLIE'S EVENT (L) Smock, L Centeno, D 117
8 STAY RED (L) Rizo, J Rivera II, J 117
9 BLAZEN (L) Pecoraro, A Rose, J 117
10 TEAKS NORTH (L) Sallusto, J Velazquez, J 117
11 ROMAN TIGER (L) Manning, D Lopez, P 117



SANTA ANITA 5th - THE CRYSTAL WATER STAKES (5:05 p.m.)

(1) Legal Separation Victor Espinoza 6
(2) Bluegrass Reward Joe Talamo 9/2
(3) Spud Spivens Mike Smith 9/2
(4) Thirtyfirststreet Joel Rosario 2
(5) Holladay Road Rafael Bejarano 5/2
(6) Macho Dorado Corey Nakatani 9/2



10th Race. 5:25PM Florida Sunshine Millions Classic

Purse $400,000 Guaranteed 1 1/8 Miles FOR FOUR YEAR OLDS AND UPWARD REGISTERED FLORIDA BREDS WITH THE FTBOA.

1 DUKE OF MISCHIEF (L) Fawkes, D Bravo, J 117
2 DREAM MAESTRO (L) Kaplan, W Leyva, J 117
3 ADIOS CHARLIE (L) Hough, S Castellano, J 117
4 DECAF AGAIN (L) Rose, B Centeno, D 117
5 TURBO COMPRESSOR (L) Pletcher, T Velazquez, J 119
6 MUCHO MACHO MAN (L) Ritvo, K R. A. Dominguez 117
7 RON THE GREEK (L) Mott, W Lezcano, J 117



SANTA ANITA 6th - THE VALENTINE DANCER STAKES (5:37 p.m.)

(1) Secret Cove Joel Rosario 15
(2) Warren’s Got Game Santiago Reyes 20
(3) Antares World Martin Garcia 9/2
(4) La Sombre Alonso Quinonez 4
(5) Chokecherymary Corey Nakatani 10
(6) Cayanna Victor Espinoza 15
(7) Unzip Me Rafael Bejarano 5/2
(8) California Nectar Hector Berrios 10
(9) Halo Dolly Joe Talamo 3
(10) Bench Glory Brice Blanc 20

my miss storm cat 01-22-2012 04:38 PM

I know the Sunshine Millions was "restructured" but I still don't understand why.

Isn't it silly when both tracks are running their respective races?

Does anyone get it and, if so, can you explain it?

It was always a fun day to go to SA. I'm sure it still will be but I liked the idea of friendly competition.

NTamm1215 01-22-2012 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 833497)
I know the Sunshine Millions was "restructured" but I still don't understand why.

Isn't it silly when both tracks are running their respective races?

Does anyone get it and, if so, can you explain it?

It was always a fun day to go to SA. I'm sure it still will be but I liked the idea of friendly competition.

All six of the races that were previously split between the two tracks are now being run exclusively at GP. The SA races as part of it are simply Cal bred races there were previously run at different times during the meet.

The races are dumb in the sense that they take away from open company races coming up soon. The Donn field would be greatly aided by having some of those Sunshine Millions Classic horses in it.

RolloTomasi 01-22-2012 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 833497)
I know the Sunshine Millions was "restructured" but I still don't understand why.

Isn't it silly when both tracks are running their respective races?

Does anyone get it and, if so, can you explain it?

The Sunshine Millions split maximizes the number of open races Stronach can ruin.

With Duke Of Mischief, Adios Charlie, and Mucho Macho Man having $400k state bred purse to divvy up right in their own backyard (without having to ship to Santa Anita), they get to avoid a real race like the Donn a week later.

Maybe next year, Gulfstream can run the one mile Gulfstream Park Handicap on the Donn undercard.

blackthroatedwind 01-22-2012 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 833508)
The Sunshine Millions split maximizes the number of open races Stronach can ruin.

With Duke Of Mischief, Adios Charlie, and Mucho Macho Man having $400k state bred purse to divvy up right in their own backyard (without having to ship to Santa Anita), they get to avoid a real race like the Donn a week later.

Maybe next year, Gulfstream can run the one mile Gulfstream Park Handicap on the Donn undercard.

I just don't get the thinking.

my miss storm cat 01-22-2012 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 833507)
All six of the races that were previously split between the two tracks are now being run exclusively at GP. The SA races as part of it are simply Cal bred races there were previously run at different times during the meet.

Okay got it and sorry for being lazy... if you go to the SA site you're smacked across the face with the big Sunshine Millions ad so I just assumed...

cakes44 01-22-2012 05:16 PM

Check this out...

$1 pick 6:

5th: 4
6th: 5,6
7th: 7
8th: 4,5
9th: 5,10
10th: 1,6

Total Ticket = $16
Net Profit = $7.50

RolloTomasi 01-22-2012 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 833510)
I just don't get the thinking.

I'm convinced that the "front office" guys at most racetracks don't even follow (or like) horse racing.

gamblin4ever 01-22-2012 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 833507)
All six of the races that were previously split between the two tracks are now being run exclusively at GP. The SA races as part of it are simply Cal bred races there were previously run at different times during the meet.

The races are dumb in the sense that they take away from open company races coming up soon. The Donn field would be greatly aided by having some of those Sunshine Millions Classic horses in it.

I can't remember who said but I believe it was due to not many shippers, so they decided it best this way. I'm probably wrong though. :o

NTamm1215 01-22-2012 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gamblin4ever (Post 833518)
I can't remember who said but I believe it was due to not many shippers, so they decided it best this way. I'm probably wrong though. :o

You're probably right. I thought the horsemen in CA squawked a bit too about how much money was going to restricted races. The whole concept is pretty idiotic in the end.

The Devil 01-22-2012 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 833515)
I'm convinced that the "front office" guys at most racetracks don't even follow (or like) horse racing.

:zz::zz::zz:

my miss storm cat 01-22-2012 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 833525)
The whole concept is pretty idiotic in the end.

Being there though... there was something fun about it.

I don't like the 50 million food truck days or the 10k run, beer festivals, etc. but this was like just a little extra fun betting. Maybe cause you'd root for horses from your state and the other people who were there understood it... it wasn't so much one of those days where the track would try to lure in new people as it was(seemed like) more for the fans who are also bettors. The other people knew the horses names (too) and it made for fun conversation with strangers, etc.

I don't know, it was just fun even though the concept might have been silly. :)

RolloTomasi 01-22-2012 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 833527)
I don't know, it was just fun even though the concept might have been silly. :)

It's not silly, it's destructive to top class racing.

The only way a microbrew festival can impact top class racing is if some drunken idiot gets onto the track and takes a swing at a champion sprinter racing down the stretch.

my miss storm cat 01-22-2012 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 833531)
It's not silly, it's destructive to top class racing.

I'm a little surprised by this line...

Did the Sunshine Millions ever draw many top class horses?

I've been a fan of many but top class?

... or am I completely misunderstanding?

Too many tracks... that could make a good argument but a series of races one day a year? I'm sorry I don't unerstand.

RolloTomasi 01-22-2012 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 833535)
I'm a little surprised by this line...

Did the Sunshine Millions ever draw many top class horses?

I've been a fan of many but top class?

... or am I completely misunderstanding?

Too many tracks... that could make a good argument but a series of races one day a year? I'm sorry I don't unerstand.

You're kidding, right?

Lava Man, Southern Image, Go Between, Miesque's Approval, Caracortado, Forbidden Apple, Star Over The Bay, Presious Passion, The Usual QT, War Monger, Silver Wagon, Ginger Punch, Lost In The Fog, Bob Black Jack, Idiot Proof, Evening Jewel, Dream Of Summer, Silent Sighs, Bordonaro, Benny The Bull, Georgie Boy, Amazombie, Apriority,...

my miss storm cat 01-22-2012 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi (Post 833538)
You're kidding, right?

Lava Man, Southern Image, Go Between, Miesque's Approval, Caracortado, Forbidden Apple, Star Over The Bay, Presious Passion, The Usual QT, War Monger, Silver Wagon, Ginger Punch, Lost In The Fog, Bob Black Jack, Idiot Proof, Evening Jewel, Dream Of Summer, Silent Sighs, Bordonaro, Benny The Bull, Georgie Boy, Amazombie, Apriority,...

Yeah right after I posted that I started remembering some of these names.

I'm a moron. Ignore me.

freddymo 01-22-2012 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat (Post 833535)
I'm a little surprised by this line...

Did the Sunshine Millions ever draw many top class horses?

I've been a fan of many but top class?

... or am I completely misunderstanding?

Too many tracks... that could make a good argument but a series of races one day a year? I'm sorry I don't unerstand.

What is so hard to get Missy? You have the Donn and a myriad of important graded races at GP its suppose to be the Mecca of Winter racing. Good horses like MMMan Sweet Repent and Awesome Feather are going to run in easy spots to pad trainers/owners pockets vs. more difficult open company. There just arent a lot of good horses(fast) and when these easy slushy spots open up it hurts the value of a Great race like the Donn etc.

my miss storm cat 01-22-2012 06:40 PM

Got it.

gamblin4ever 01-22-2012 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 833525)
You're probably right. I thought the horsemen in CA squawked a bit too about how much money was going to restricted races. The whole concept is pretty idiotic in the end.

I understand,but, I think it's a good concept if later in the meet so it doesn't hurt stakes like the Donn. The 3 yr olds not good enough for the Derby would be able to run also.

Travis Stone 01-22-2012 07:44 PM

The concept is fine, but the timing is not.


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