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US Navy saves Iranian sailors from pirates
"US Navy Frees Iranians From Pirates - US to Iran 'How do you like them apples?"
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The Iranian sailors left the ship with a hug and wearing USS Kidd caps...nice touch...:tro:
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It is nice that we saved the Iranian fisherman. Too bad our Navy doesn't take a more aggressive approach against pirates preying on merchant vessels and pleasure craft.
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Well it's totally o.k. To bomb their country now.
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US Navy saves Iranian sailors from pirates
Or, better still, have Israel do it. Some itchy trigger fingers with Iran squarely in their sights.
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You fools...that Iranian Fishy Ship.
That is the Iranian Armada!! |
you'd think irans tremendous naval force could have saved their own folks-i mean, that juggernaut has enough force to keep us out of the gulf, to close the strait of hormuz...
anyway, glad they were rescued. |
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Why do you think we do not do that? It doesn't make sense. Our navy deliberately and aggressively goes after pirates constantly, they patrol certain international waters just to keep merchant vessels safe from pirates. Quote:
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typically a ship does a six month cruise in a 3 year period. they have shorter times at sea at other times. but saltwater and time at sea is hard on a ship-they have to re-fit, perform maintenance, and of course you have to take the sailors into consideration. so, take the number of ships and do the math to see how often a portion is at sea. also consider that a part of that number is assigned to a carrier to form a battle group-they sail when she sails. that group in turn is part of a fleet-the fifth in bahrain for example. and of course part of each fleet is submarines. so, take that number, and then look at the sheer amount of water to be covered. it's a difficult task. we're spread thin, with plenty of places we have to patrol. |
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The U.S. Navy either goes after pirates aggressively or it doesn't. I don't think it does. We don't need naval vessels to track suspected pirates; we can depend on our eyes in the sky to do that. It isn't like the pirates are taking over vessels and disappearing, as they are holding the vessels and crew captive for ransom, although in one instance they killed Americans as retaliation for a pirate receiving a lengthy prison sentence. Who knows why we don't treat sea piracy as seriously as we should. Our government doesn't take our illegal immigration problem as seriously as it should either, so why should I expect it to devote the resources and personnel to a problem a world away. |
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Got any, you know, actual evidence for that opinion? Or is it true just because you think it? Why do you think we do not do that? We are part of a 25-nation anti-sea piracy organization, with some of our naval troops devoted to this international cause. So please, tell us why your opinion has any basis in example. Because you just saying it doesn't make it true. And don't get me wrong: I'm not saying your opinion is wrong or not true. I'm just saying it doesn't seem to be backed by any obvious evidence. As I asked you before, why do you hold that opinion? Quote:
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like i showed above, we do have limited resources. we have to choose which battles to fight. obviously if we had a naval presence right there, the pirates would stay on shore. once we leave, they'd be back out there. and we've got plenty of other things to handle as well. as for illegal immigration, we've had that discussion on here before. and that all comes down to money. unless someone is paying cash under the table, it's not a big issue for the feds. social security benefits from all the money flowing in from undocumented workers and their employers-but they'll never collect that, will they? now, give them citizenship-and you've got future collectors. it's all about the money. it's always about the money. |
I guess it's just that if the actuality doesn't feed the preconceived idea, you ignore it.
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