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Riot 12-07-2011 07:49 PM

Newt violates Federal Law - again - today
 
"Newt Gingrich said he would offer the Secretary of State position to controversial former UN ambassador John Bolton during a speech Wednesday with the Jewish Republican Coalition. Talking Points Memo reports his disclosure was a big applause line."

Too bad you can't discuss those appointments before the election (candidates can't even contact potential cabinet people for vetting or to feel them out until after the election results are in)

Title 18, Part I, Chapter 29, Section 599, of the U.S. Code says:

Whoever, being a candidate, directly or indirectly promises or pledges the appointment, or the use of his influence or support for the appointment of any person to any public or private position or employment, for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

mclem0822 12-07-2011 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 822832)
"Newt Gingrich said he would offer the Secretary of State position to controversial former UN ambassador John Bolton during a speech Wednesday with the Jewish Republican Coalition. Talking Points Memo reports his disclosure was a big applause line."

Too bad you can't discuss those appointments before the election (candidates can't even contact potential cabinet people for vetting or to feel them out until after the election results are in)

Title 18, Part I, Chapter 29, Section 599, of the U.S. Code says:

Whoever, being a candidate, directly or indirectly promises or pledges the appointment, or the use of his influence or support for the appointment of any person to any public or private position or employment, for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

Give him 14 like Blago!:D

dellinger63 12-07-2011 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 822832)
"Newt Gingrich said he would offer the Secretary of State position to controversial former UN ambassador John Bolton during a speech Wednesday with the Jewish Republican Coalition. Talking Points Memo reports his disclosure was a big applause line."

Too bad you can't discuss those appointments before the election (candidates can't even contact potential cabinet people for vetting or to feel them out until after the election results are in).

Can you post the part of the law that states you can't discuss appointments before an election or where it says you can't even contact potential cabinet people for vetting to feel them out?

From the law you posted my guess is proving the for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy would be a problem unless Bolton is on record or known to be supporting someone else.

Riot 12-07-2011 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 822851)
Can you post the part of the law that states you can't discuss appointments before an election or where it says you can't even contact potential cabinet people for vetting to feel them out?

From the law you posted my guess is proving the for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy would be a problem unless Bolton is on record or known to be supporting someone else.

Yeah. That would be the law I quoted. You know, that every other candidate, and the election commissions, adhere to. If you have a problem with that law being the applicable one, I suggest you contact the US Attorneys General office and give them your legal opinion.

dellinger63 12-07-2011 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 822852)
Yeah. That would be the law I quoted. You know, that every other candidate, and the election commissions, adhere to. If you have a problem with that law being the applicable one, I suggest you contact the US Attorneys General office and give them your legal opinion.

Unless he promised Bolton the position 'for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy' there was no law broken. No need to involve the Atty General. Besides he's too busy lying about supplying guns to mexican drug cartels.

Riot 12-07-2011 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 822861)
Unless he promised Bolton the position 'for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy' there was no law broken. No need to involve the Atty General. Besides he's too busy lying about supplying guns to mexican drug cartels.

Then you'd better tell the legal folks telling Newt to shut up not to worry about it.

dellinger63 12-07-2011 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 822862)
Then you'd better tell the legal folks telling Newt to shut up not to worry about it.

I don't give a fly'n fck about Newt! Hope his legal folks back over him pulling out from dinner. Oh and Newt's giving Obama a big hug while they do it.

Clip-Clop 12-08-2011 12:40 PM

I do not love Newt, but the word "offer" is your arguments undoing. Offer neither promises nor procures.


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