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justindew 12-03-2011 04:39 PM

My idea for a new wager that all of you will undoubtedly ridicule
 
New idea for a horse racing wager. It's called The Noid. You must pick exactly three horses in every race on the card. If any of your horses win, you lose the bet. If your ticket is the only ticket that picked zero winners, you win the entire pot. If multiple tickets had zero winners, they split 50% of the pot, and the remaining 50% carries to the next day. No part wheels. $20 straight bet.... No, I did not invent this wager after going 0 for 6 in a Pick Six. Need to work out the details on what happens with late scratches and 3 or 4-horse fields. But I want to know what people think.

Dahoss 12-03-2011 04:54 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEkWH8DB7b0

pointman 12-03-2011 04:55 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTk3E4xefhc

freddymo 12-03-2011 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dahoss (Post 821677)

PG might have a future after all

my miss storm cat 12-03-2011 05:22 PM

http://www.us.mensa.org/join/testsco...n-application/

justindew 12-03-2011 05:33 PM

Here is my thinking. If you offer a low takeout and require a $20 straight bet, you could get some decent pools. If there are nine races on the card with an average field size of, say, eight horses, it would probably only take one decent-price horse per day to insure people who picked zero winners got at least a modest profit. And if you have a few bombs on one card, I can see there being only one winning ticket.

For example, if only 500 people played the bet, you would have $10,000 in the pool. With a 12% takeout, you'd have $8,800 in the pot. If you have an average field size of 8 horses, you are probably going to see at least one of the bottom three betting choices win at least one of the races. That alone would knock out a chunk of the tickets and guarantee that players didn't lose money by hitting the bet but getting back less than $20 due to the takeout.

I know it's fun to act witty and post quick responses bashing new ideas, but give this some thought and tell me why it can't work.

Dahoss 12-03-2011 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by justindew (Post 821687)

I know it's fun to act witty and post quick responses bashing new ideas, but give this some thought and tell me why it can't work.

For one, because it's stupid. Two, the name sucks. Three, I'd rather light myself on fire than give your latest attempt at attention any further thought. It's a lot more fun to just mock.

blackthroatedwind 12-03-2011 07:00 PM

Not to give the leader for the third slot in the desperate for attention Trifecta on DT any undeserved credit, but bets that rely on horses running poorly will never work......for the obvious reasons.

justindew 12-03-2011 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 821714)
Not to give the leader for the third slot in the desperate for attention Trifecta on DT any undeserved credit, but bets that rely on horses running poorly will never work......for the obvious reasons.

So, then you're against betting exchanges?

blackthroatedwind 12-03-2011 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by justindew (Post 821717)
So, then you're against betting exchanges?

It's interesting. I get the average jerkoffs on the internet that twist things others say in pathetic attempts to be smug. However, I thought, believe it or not, that you were better than that.

I was wrong. It happens.

justindew 12-03-2011 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 821720)
It's interesting. I get the average jerkoffs on the internet that twist things others say in pathetic attempts to be smug. However, I thought, believe it or not, that you were better than that.

I was wrong. It happens.

Wow, I haven't been on DT for a while. It seems like the mood has gotten far angrier than usual.

I wasn't being smug or twisting anything. You said bets that require one to pick a losing horse never work. I then asked if you were against betting exchanges, which require that very thing. I mean, was it not a legitimate question?

So far, I have gotten three explanations for why my idea for a bet can't work:

1) Because it's stupid
2) Bets that make you pick the winner can't work
3) The name is stupid

Feel free to add to the list.

blackthroatedwind 12-03-2011 07:21 PM

I didn't see the question mark.

That changes everything. Well, maybe not everything.

Who's angry?

justindew 12-03-2011 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 821725)
I didn't see the question mark.

That changes everything. Well, maybe not everything.

Who's angry?

The guy who alluded to me as a pathetic, smug jerkoff.

dino 12-03-2011 07:28 PM

Yo Andy,

You're a hell of an handicapper and I really enjoy watching you on NYRA but you need to get over that small guy complex.
What's the deal with putting eveyone down? You have a career that most us on this site are jealous of so chill out dude.

blackthroatedwind 12-03-2011 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by justindew (Post 821726)
The guy who alluded to me as a pathetic, smug jerkoff.

That would sort of qualify as cutting and pasting....don't you think?

I better go before someone mistakenly thinks I'm being serious and then decides to use the opportunity to take an idiotic shot.

Oops, too late.

justindew 12-03-2011 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 821735)
That would sort of qualify as cutting and pasting....don't you think?

I better go before someone mistakenly thinks I'm being serious and then decides to use the opportunity to take an idiotic shot.

Oops, too late.

So, then you DO like the idea of my bet? I'm confused here. Where was the mistake on the part of me and the other posters?

blackthroatedwind 12-03-2011 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by justindew (Post 821738)
So, then you DO like the idea of my bet? I'm confused here. Where was the mistake on the part of me and the other posters?

You've never made a mistake....save perhaps your recent facebook picture.

justindew 12-03-2011 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind (Post 821741)
You've never made a mistake....save perhaps your recent facebook picture.

Look, the family was breaking my balls for not posting enough shots of myself with the baby. I hate having my picture taken. Hate hate hate. I can't smile on demand. I have a huge head, which limits acceptable angles. And my hairline, even though it stopped receding about 10 years ago, isn't helping matters. It's a sad state of affairs.

Luckily, the baby will inherit her mother's good looks. So she has that going for her.

justindew 12-03-2011 07:51 PM

Yet another one of my posts has dissolved into a psychological mud bath.

DOES ANYONE HAVE A SPECIFIC REASON WHY MY EFFING BET CAN'T WORK!!!

3kings 12-03-2011 07:54 PM

Scratches.........small fields.


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